DFDuck's #AmiWest98 IRC Conference Logs 12-Jul-98

This is my complete log. Unaltered other than editing out my private messages, reformatting of text to make it readable (ever try reading an AmIRC log?), and adding html tags top and bottom. I missed the beginning of both days. I started logging at 1:15pm the 11th and 10:26am the 12th. If anyone has those times logged I would really appreciate a copy of them.
«Log»     |Logging started at 12-Jul-98 10:25:34.
RobSDA    |Looks like that webcam picture is from last night.   Hope they 
          |turn it on today, soon.
Riley     |robsda: it's on
Lambertus |It's on
sc00by    |I  don't get it.  webcam's working... lemme wave hello.
TigNLissa |Webcam picture is from Today, Scooby and a boing ball last time I 
          |checked.
Lambertus |It's Sc00by
«Quit»    |[Vader] (davef@dip-195-74-66-82.thenet.co.uk) has signed off 
          |(Ping timeout for [Vader][dip-195-74-66-82.thenet.co.uk]).
RobSDA    |Riley:  On Amiga.org/webcam?  I just see a guy pointing and it 
          |shows a time that would have to be from last night.  I am using 
          |Netscape currently.  Is this THE cam you are reffering to?  Or 
          |should I be looking elsewhere?
Riley     |robsda: the time must be wrong
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TigNLissa |Time is just wrong, its from right now.
Riley     |but the cam's on and working ok
TigNLissa |Scooby:  Your wife and Puppy are doing fine.
Mitchman  |bummer, "my" team lost 3-4 to Rosenborg at home :/
RobSDA    |Riley:  Okay, how often does the picture update?  It's been the 
          |same one for 5+ minutes now, easily.
sc00by    |good morning tignlissa...
sc00by    |I'm working on 1 hour sleep.
AAlley    |Rob: Use IE. NS will NOT work on this page.
TigNLissa |Good Morning, Scooby, your wife is beating up my puppy
AAlley    |BTW, sCOOBy, the date stamp is from last night
TB        |sc0: You'd never survive University ;0
RobSDA    |AAlley:  Must I?  Okay.. I think I have that somewhere...  :-(
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Lambertus |NS does work
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          |this channel.
Yrag      |If anyone at the show can drag either Chris or Stan from the 
          |Panorama table...
sc00by    |I'll have tekmage look into webcam when he wakes up.
AAlley    |I've been fiddling with both browsers since yesterday.
TigNLissa |What time do you need to be picked up tonight Scoob???
Yrag      |I'm sure the rest of the net would have one or two qustions...
TigNLissa |Webcam is working Scoob, we see you fine.
AAlley    |With IE, you must manually hit the refresh button to se a new 
          |image.
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Lambertus |Same with NS..  No server push or client pull, I guess
Lambertus |(Or other tricks)
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AAlley    |The code seems OK.
Lambertus |I guess it's OK that I DON'T get an update automatically.  Takes 
          |up lots of BW, and I only look at it once in a while
RobSDA    |How often should the image update?  I finally saw a 'new' 
          |picture.  But it took like 10 minutes... ???
Yrag      |BW should not be much of an issue...
Yrag      |the webcam pics are only 17K
AAlley    |Rob, it's set for a 30 xsecond refresh
Lambertus |But with all people doing updates every 30 secs?
«Nick»    |sc00by is now known as branko.
Thiesen   |RobSDA: set the update to 30 sec....
TB        |Ok guys, the next speaker has just arrived. We're just setting up 
          |now
TB        |Ok, Were switching to moderated now
«Mode»    |TB changes channel modes to moderated
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TB        |If you have a question, mail me with a ? and you'll be put in the 
          |que
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branko    |Hi, let me introduce myself, I am Branko Carija, owner of Brain 
          |Technologies Co.
TB        |Branko: would you like to do an Intro for us?
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TB        |The rules for today are when your finished speaking, please put a 
          |GA afterwards so we know your done 
«CTCP»    |Got VERSION request from HMetal [to #amiwestta].
branko    |We produce two products for Amiga machines: Mr. Robot's Speak'n 
          |Spell and Pix Lib ga
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TB        |Ok, people... you can request a place in the que now.
«Quit»    |LeRoy (drueb@1Cust163.tnt6.dfw5.da.uu.net) has signed off (Demo 
          |timeout).
branko    |Mr. Robot's Speak'n Spell is an educational & learning tool that 
          |uses 1020 pictures to teach english
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          |channel.
branko    |vocabulary to elementary through college level and runs on a 
          |minimal system (A500 w/512K mem).  It is uses
branko    | a high technology compression algorithm to store equiv. of 22 MB 
          |of pic. data on one 3.5 in. diskette ga
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TB        |Ok, the que is filling:  Lambertu is first.
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          |channel.
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to Lambertus
Lambertus |Does it pronounce the words, and does it use synthesis for that?  
          |GA
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from Lambertus
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branko    |Yes, it uses custom phoneme strings for each word so that it is 
          |pronounced in real-time by a robot character with
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branko    |releastic lip animation and includes extesive use of music and 
          |voice synthesis. ga
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TB        |The que is empty...people, que now if you want to ask questions.
TB        |To recap, our guest is Branko Carija, owner of Brain Technologies 
          |Co.
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          |for Nixon^99[t5o201p53.telia.com]).
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          |channel.
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to pjs
pjs       |Branko: Hi, we called you from DC (with Bill Borsari) yesterday 
          |.. I was trying to find what compression algorithyms you're suign?
pjs       |using, even
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from pjs
branko    |Mr. Robot's Speak'n Spell uses a compression system design that 
          |uses both a compression algorithm and interweaves information
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          |exiting).
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branko    |from different pictures in the database - many pictures can use 
          |associated information - w/standard pic. comp. algorithms
branko    |the product would not be feasible to produce on one diskette. ga
«Quit»    |Manowar2 (ppcamiga@195.33.208.225) has signed off (Switching 
          |server).
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to RobSDA
RobSDA    |What other educational programs do you have in the works?  What 
          |are the chances of Brain Technologies writing a Chiristian, or 
          |otherwise morally or ethically based educational title to help 
          |teach kids honesty, compassion?  GA
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from RobSDA
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          |channel.
branko    |That's a great idea, I myself am a person of deep faith.  This is 
          |something I am going to have look into more after
branko    |this show. ga
TB        |The question que is currently empty, if you have questions for 
          |branko, please message me with a "?"
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to Lambertus
Lambertus |Any chance of using other languages than English, and/or using 
          |the OS's native synthesis?  GA
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from Lambertus
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          |timeout for CyberWolf[slip4-6.restena.lu]).
branko    |Yes, a version for teaching spanish is being looked into. ga
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to DFDuck
DFDuck    |Does the Speak'N'Spell allow for the user to add their own words 
          |and/or pictures or is it a static set of words/pics?   GA
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from DFDuck
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          |channel.
branko    |Right now it is a static set, but that feature is being looked 
          |into and would not be difficult to add.
branko    |Thanks, to all for participating in this discussion - I need to 
          |return to my booth to continue the show right now. ga/
branko    |.
TB        |Thanks for being here.
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TB        |Just checking for more speakers... if none, we'll go unmoderated.
«Nick»    |branko is now known as tekky.
tekky     |re launchpad!
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          |server).
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          |danm[195.67.243.221]).
tekky     |I need to fix some stuff brb promis
«Mode»    |TB changes channel modes to not moderated
Yrag      |Web cam updated...
«Quit»    |tekky (tekmage@sac12-69.calweb.com) has signed off (Don't let the 
          |door hit my ass on the way out.).
DFDuck    |What time is the next speaker? And who? (if known)
TB        |Im trying to find that out... they took to long to tell me so 
          |were unmoderated for now
_bladez_  | John Zacharias
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          |channel.
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          |exiting).
Kernel    |I cannot access the webcam... it gives me a 'error: 301 moved 
          |permanently'.  Is anyone else getting this?
spuug     |DF: supposed to be nBranko Carija of BrainTech, starting now.
T-RexYard |Hi Tek!
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«Topic»   |TB sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 11:00AM PST John Zacharias - AEMail
«Nick»    |T-RexYard is now known as T-Rex.
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«Topic»   |TB sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 12:00AM PST John Zacharias - AEMail
«Nick»    |sasc is now known as tekky.
spuug     |(if the topic can be believed)
TB        |As far as I can tell at least
«Nick»    |DataPomp is now known as Zenon\NGZ.
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          |channel.
Lambertus |Spuug: He just was here, and went
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«OP»      |TB gives channel operator status to tekky
Yrag      |Kernal:  web works for me...
T-Rex     |tekmage: where are your Amiga Shades?  ;)
«Nick»    |tekmage is now known as AmiWest98.
«Quit»    |HaraldTH (petermat@195.100.145.77) has signed off (Ping timeout 
          |for HaraldTH[195.100.145.77]).
Kernel    |hmmm... how do you have it setup?  I have it as 
          |'http://www.amiga.org' with filename as '/webcam'...
tekky     |T-Rex:  better
«Nick»    |tekky is now known as tekmage.
tekmage   |ahh better now
tekmage   |how is everyone today?
RobSDA    |Wouldn't it be more fun to watch a side view of the coputer 
          |screen and the user, rather than just the user?  Just a thought...
DFDuck    |I using WebTV and its updating here.
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          |channel.
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«Quit»    |Riley (pall3@195.74.6.53) has signed off (Client exiting).
AAlley    |Tek: I'd be better if the webcam worked:)
spuug     |Lambertus: oh, great.
Yrag      |I just went through Amiga.org and followed the links to the web 
          |cam
T-Rex     |Yeah!   Looking good!!!1 :)))
tekmage   |Kernel:  look on  the bottom of the frist webcam page :)
TB        |What are those glasses?
tekmage   |AAlley:  it's you
«Quit»    |AmiWest98 (jweb@ip-65-132.sck.primenet.com) has signed off (Read 
          |error to AmiWest98[ip-65-132.sck.primenet.com]: Connection reset 
          |by peer).
T-Rex     |tek: they make great "morning after" shades don't they?  Nice and 
          |dark.
tekmage   |TB:  no, wayne punched me and gave me black eyes :)
tekmage   |T-Rex:  I'm amased I can see the keyboard :)
TB        |tek: I told you not to call him Cartman :)
tekmage   |amazed
T-Rex     |tek, turn sideways a bit for the next update.
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tekmage   |10 4
sasc      |oops
Yrag      |Kernal: ...the clock is hooped?
«Quit»    |Perty (d102331@du136-4.ppp.algonet.se) has signed off 
          |(http://www.laetus.se).
Kernel    |pardon me Yrag?
T-Rex     |tek, you don't touch type?    :)
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          |this channel.
Yrag      |Kernal:  you mentioned the bottom of the WebCam???
tekmage   |T-res: hahah
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Kernel    |yrag:  Hmmm, well, i'm using the WebTV package... I am not using 
          |a browser.  I just got the package last night actually, so am new 
          |to it.
Yrag      |tekmage:  is the Panorama user group table ocupied?
«Quit»    |spuug (uug@bessie.mojo.org) has signed off (Leaving).
T-Rex     |That your best side Tek?  ;)
tekmage   |we are changing speakers right now, we are about to be joined by 
          |John Zacharias of AEmail and AmiWest fame
T-Rex     |kewl!
TB        |So, what are those glasses?
sasc      |T-Rexx glasses, no?
«Nick»    |sasc is now known as AmiWest98.
«Nick»    |tekmage is now known as amiwest.
Kernel    |yreg: got it.  /webcam/cam.jpg
Lambertus |Good idea, Tek.
«Quit»    |Kernel (sdkelly@ip153.user.aiusa.com) has signed off (System 
          |rebooting...).
GKnight   |Was there ever ( I imagine not but......) any confirmation on 
          |Transmeta working on a new processor for the new amiga ?
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«Topic»   |amiwest sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 11:00AM PST John Zacharias - AEMail
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          |exiting).
AAlley    |WHo's that kid with the beard?
Lambertus |I think Jay Miner's bro
RobSDA    |Is WebTV AGA only?  Or does it support ECS as well?
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«Nick»    |amiwest is now known as johnz.
DFDuck    |it works on ECS
«Mode»    |TB changes channel modes to moderated
TB        |Ok, We're now moderated.  Standard rules apply.
TB        |Johnz: Could you please introduce yourself to everyone, and tell 
          |us a little about what you do.
johnz     |I am John Zacharias, one of the co-producers of AmiWest 98.  I 
          |also have my own product that I am showing at the show.  It's 
          |called AEMail and is an email client program
«Nick»    |pjs is now known as pjsBRB.
TB        |Question que is open, please message me with a "?" if you wish to 
          |ask a question.
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to T-Rex
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T-Rex     |What features make your program desirable over a freeware 
          |offering like YAM?
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from T-Rex
johnz     |AmiWest is the first Amiga show produced on the West coast of the 
          |United States in over 4 years,  It has been organized by our 
          |local user group in Sacramento (SACC - Sacramento  Amiga Computer 
          |Club) and the Redwood Empire Amiga Users Group i(RE-AUG)
«Nick»    |d is now known as d9090.
johnz     |One advantage of AEMail is that it does not require MUI ga
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to VideoTeck
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VideoTeck |Give me a url to it. I'm a yam person myself. But i would like to 
          |try it !
VideoTeck |ga
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from VideoTeck
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johnz     |The URL for AEMail is http://www.calweb.com/~jzachar/
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          |to a different server).
TB        |The question que is empty.  If you wish to ask a question please 
          |mail me with a "?"
johnz     |You can obtain a demonstration copy from the web site ga
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to T-Rex
«Nick»    |Jkay_lnch is now known as Jkay.
T-Rex     |Can it show images inline?   GA?
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          |error to Sneaky[dialin-er-48.fen.baynet.de]: Connection reset by 
          |peer).
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johnz     |Not inline, but it can show image attachments as full screen 
          |images ga
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to Kernel
«OP»      |Jkay gives channel operator status to Jkay
Jkay      |Hi folks. If you have a question for John Z, author of AEmail 
          |please send me a question mark in /msg .. like this:  /msg Jkay ? 
          | and I'll add you to the question queue.
Kernel    |You say that is does not require MUI - does that mean it is uses 
          |the standard interface, or does it require something like 
          |ClassAct?
johnz     |It use a standard interface - basically the gadtools interface 
          |that comes with the standard Amiga ga
«Voice»   |TB removes voice from Kernel
«Voice»   |TB gives voice to LaunchPad
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«Quit»    |Ratleto (ratleto@borg-16.stud.ntnu.no) has signed off (dinner and 
          |the final in the soccer WC).
«Quit»    |Sodapop_ (sodapop@annecy4-5.club-internet.fr) has signed off (See 
          |ya !).
LaunchPad |What systems do you use for development. Also what compiler?
Jkay      |Launchpad sent me his question in msg .. he's going to say it out 
          |loud now
johnz     |I use an Amiga 1200 equiped with 32 megs of memory.  I develop in 
          |C using the SAS/C compiler ga
Jkay      |next up is RobSDA then Yrag
LaunchPad |thanks
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          |is Outta here.).
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          |channel.
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«Mode»    |Jkay_ changes channel modes to secret
Jkay_     |oh geez. excuse me folks. Beta IRC client
«Mode»    |Jkay_ changes channel modes to not secret
«Voice»   |Jkay_ gives voice to RobSDA
Jkay_     |thre
RobSDA    |Does AEMail allow for different profiles for different E-Mail 
          |accounts, that don't save the retrieved E-Mail all into one set 
          |of shared folders or mailboxes?  I have a couple accounts I need 
          |to check, and nothing seems to allow for reading any one totally 
          |independantly (I haven't looked TOO hard though!)  Does AEMail
          |do the trick?  Thanks!  GA
«Quit»    |Jkay (~Jkay@cx32840-a.mrdn1.ct.home.com) has signed off (A 
          |friendly illegal alien cleans my comfortable hyperspace bubble.).
«Voice»   |Jkay_ removes voice from RobSDA
johnz     |Yes, you can set up different profiles for different Email 
          |accounts.  You can store messages either in the same areas  as 
          |other messages or you can set up a completely separate area to 
          |save the messages
johnz     |ga
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«Error»   |jkay: No such nick
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Yrag      |Thamks JKay... John: Has anyone used your product to work with 
          |DLG Pro?  GA
«Voice»   |Jkay_ removes voice from Yrag
«Quit»    |Kernel (sdkelly@ip153.user.aiusa.com) has signed off (Client 
          |exiting...).
johnz     |I am not familiar with DLG pro - what is it and what is it used 
          |for GA
Jkay_     |If anyone has a question for John Z, Author of AEmail and 
          |co-organizer of AmiWest please msg me with a question mark -> ? 
          |and I'll add you tothe question queue.
Jkay_     |Right now the queue is empty.
«Voice»   |johnz gives voice to Yrag
«Voice»   |Jkay_ gives voice to DFDuck
DFDuck    |Does AEMail support both uuencode and base64 compression? Or any 
          |additional compression schemes?   And does it have an arexx port? 
          |  GA
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Jkay_     |the question queue is ... beezo
johnz     |Yes, it supports both UUencoding and MIME (base64) encoding.  It 
          |will both decode and encode these formats.  And yes, it does have 
          |an ARexx port in the latest version (1.51) GA
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Jkay_     |Beezo ? :)
beezo     |What you think this new irc media is helping advertise your 
          |program which might not be known to everyone? ga
«Voice»   |Jkay_ removes voice from DFDuck
«Voice»   |Jkay_ removes voice from beezo
Jkay_     |the question queue is Yrag then NANh
«Quit»    |Rog (rmoore@dial1-2.tctc.com) has signed off (Read error to 
          |Rog[dial1-2.tctc.com]: Network is unreachable).
Jkay_     |please have your questions typed out and ready hen your turn 
          |comes, folks :)
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johnz     |I am not that familiar with the IRC channel.  I hope it will let 
          |people become beter aquainted with my program.
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Jkay      |You're on deck, Yrag.
Yrag      |sorry  DLG is a BBS...next question: I have uucp. will aemail 
          |work from  herhe??  GA
Yrag      |\\
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johnz     |I am not really sure that it will work with a BBS .uucp 
          |connection.
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          |channel.
Jkay      |After NANh the queue is empty .. if youhave a question for JohnZ, 
          |author of AEmail and co-organizer of AmiWEST please send me a ? 
          |in msg and I'll queue you up
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to NANh
NANh      |PGP is becoming a very intregal part of Amiga mailers these 
          |days.. Does AEMail decode and encode PGP on the fly and 
          |automatically?
Jkay      |Please use a "GA" to signify the end of your response
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NANh      |GA
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johnz     |There is no direct support for PGP at this time.  However, 
          |through ARexx  you can do some PGP encoding/decoding
johnz     |GA
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to VideoTeck
VideoTeck |Will there be a amiwest next year ?
VideoTeck |ga
Jkay      |V: You're up
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johnz     |I hope so.  The show this year has been very sucessful - beyond 
          |our expectations
johnz     |GA
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Jkay      |Ok, since the question queue is emtpy, I'd like to thank our 
          |guest John Z and ask him to give us a URL to learn more about 
          |AEmail
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johnz     |The URL for AEMail is http://www.calweb.com/~jzachar/ GA
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Jkay      |Ok! we have one last question slid under the door.
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GKnight   |  What's the over all atmosphere like ?  What's your most 
          |memorable moment of the show thus far ? GA.
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from GKnight
johnz     |John has left, it's check out time here :(
Jkay      |whoops! :)
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Yrag      |..thanks JKay
Jkay      |ok, the channel is open for discussion
Jkay      |np
«Nick»    |johnz is now known as amiwest.
VideoTeck |check out time ?
amiwest   |from the hotel
amiwest   |the show will run for a few more hours
amiwest   |let's look around with the webcam
VideoTeck |will bill be showing up any more ?
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amiwest   |back
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          |channel.
amiwest   |Bill McEwen has left the building
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Jkay      |so .. there was nothing at all in the way of news?
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          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 12:00AM PST Allan Crandall of A+ Prod
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amiwest   |Jkay:  yes much news.... just not *BIG*
Jkay      |heh
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DrFraggle |What is "A+ Prod"?
DrFraggle |or who
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amiwest   |Jkay:  ImageFX PPC upgrade will be out this year
Plush     |'lo
Jkay      |thats good.
Jkay      |Did Holger show Miami Deluxe as planned?
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          |channel.
amiwest   |Jkay:  also AC Guide sept 14
DFDuck    |Ya.. what does A+ Prod make?
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«Nick»    |Christian is now known as Dozer.
amiwest   |here is a quick show report from Venom! :)
«Nick»    |amiwest is now known as venom.
venom     |Heya everyone! ;)
Jkay      |Hello V.
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Jkay      |is that Doug Henning behind you?
venom     |Wish you all could be here! Lots of fun as usual Amigans are just 
          |a cool bunch of ppl! :)
Plush     |were there any news since Commando's report?
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venom     |Jkay hiya :)
Yrag      |venom:  is that you in teh WebCam?
arnold    |what's up with web cam, had better picture last night
jalvarez  |another overview would be nice, for those of us who have not 
          |spent all out time on-line! :)
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venom     |Yep it's me how embarrassing! :(
NANh      |It's only an illusion.
venom     |arnold:  are you saying I broke the cam? heheh ;)
Jkay      |venom: Did Holger show Miami Deluxe as he has planned?
Yrag      |Venom:  how about breaking some news, or vies?  :)
venom     |Jkay:  I believe so, he has a demo of Deluxe but not ready to 
          |ship yet. :)
arnold    |just hard to see, who is who
Jkay      |ok, I had heard he was selling it at a pre-release price
VideoTeck |how about the performance minimum's of the chips we was gonna get 
          |? :-/
Jkay      |VT: amen
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RobSDA    |Anyone hear anything about Fabio Bizzettis AGAExtender from a few 
          |years ago?  Is that dead?  Also, anyting about Access Innovations 
          |AGA+?  Or the BoXeR for that matter?
venom     |Yrag:  well we saw an awesome speech from Carl Sassenrath, he 
          |show slides from the original team, how cool! :)
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venom     |AH is sitting here he says yep, Holger is. :)
portnoy   |venom: Hi!
venom     |RobSDA:  Not that I know of.
GKnight   |Is there anyone making a video of this show ?
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venom     |portnoy howdy!!! wish you could have made it, fun fun fun! :)
portnoy   |venom: I'll be at the Ohio show again this year. That you on the 
          |cam?
venom     |GKknight I believe lots of videos will be floating around, 
          |anything in particular?
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DFDuck    |venoms looks changed but the nick stayed the same ¦)
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ginger    |any news?
jalvarez  |So how about a short overview? :)
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          |channel.
venom     |Alan Crandall is here.
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          |channel.
«Nick»    |venom is now known as Alan.
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Jkay      |OUr Guest Speaker is Alan Crandall .. please introduce yourself 
          |and your comapny A+  .
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Jkay      |Also, if you are typing long replies, be sure to hit  
          |every so often so we know you are alive on that end. Thanks.
Alan      |Hi I am the promoter of AmiWest, a trustee with the JMS, and A+ 
          |productions is been down due to a PPC prob for 4 mos. I burn 
          |CD's, webpages.
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          |this channel.
Alan      |ok
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Jkay      |If you have a question for Alan, who is a co-organizer at AmiWest 
          |and the owner of A+ productions message me with a ? mark and I'll 
          |queue yuo up
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Alan      |G A
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Jkay      |Ok .. I have a question :) .. How is Amiwest doing in your 
          |opinion. Was it worth all the work on your part?
Jkay      |next in the queue is DrFraggle
Jkay      |GA
Jkay      |Alan? :)
Alan      |Very well, yes it was very well worth it.
Alan      |GA
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DrFraggle |What does A+ actually produce? GA
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Alan      |Nothing atm, my computer has been down for 4 mos. GA
Jkay      |the queue is VideoTeck ...
VideoTeck |Your company A+, does it burn for magz or maybe software hut's ?
VideoTeck |ga
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Jkay      |If you have a question for Alan, who is a co-organizer at AmiWest 
          |and the owner of A+ productions message me with a ? mark and I'll 
          |queue you up
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Jkay      |Alan.. ?
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Alan      |no just for sale off my page. GA
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Jkay      |the queue is ginger, then DFDuck
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Alan      |sorry, we are using a big screen and hard to get it all. GA
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Jkay      |ginger :) .. you're turn.
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ginger    |What market did you see as most important to the conference?
ginger    |GA
DFDuck    |Are you already planning AmiWest99? If so would you expect it to 
          |be bigger and better than 98? And would it be in Sac again. GA
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Jkay      |ginger: do you meant as in amiga software, amiga hardware .. 
          |amiga services?
ginger    |overall really
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Alan      |not understanding question
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Jkay      |ginger .. could you rephrase it? please
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Jkay      |ok, well get back to Ginger in a second
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DFDuck    |Are there already plans for AmiWest99? If so would you expect it 
          |to be bigger and better than 98? And would it be in Sac again.  GA
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Alan      |Yes there are plans for AmiWest 99. Depends on the legacy market 
          |at that time, and Amiga NG.....
Alan      |Yes we would use the same city, different facility!
Jkay      |If you have a question for Alan, who is a co-organizer of AmiWest 
          |and owner of A+ Productions please message me with a single 
          |question mark --> ?  and I'll put you into the message queue.
Alan      |GA
Jkay      |Alan: I understand that there is NO A/C there .. everyone is 
          |cooking?
Alan      |Was warm for awhile yesterday, today is cool.
Alan      |GA
Jkay      |and now we'll get back to ginger's question, which I believe has 
          |been re-phrased for clarity
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to ginger
ginger    |Which Amiga market did you see as most important to the success 
          |of the conference, was it helping organise the ICOA, getting 
          |developers to meet and discuss or helping the end users in your 
          |area?     GA
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ginger    |GA
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from ginger
Jkay      |I think we can replace "market" with "sector"
Alan      |Getting developers, users, JMS, TA, and UGN together on the West 
          |coast to work together....
Alan      |and promote eachother. GA
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Jkay      |ok! the question queue is empty. I'll open the floor to 
          |questions. Thanks to our guest, Alan Crandall .. could you give 
          |us your URL if you have one for A+ ?
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Jkay      |the channel is open for general discussion
DFDuck    |Is A+ Sacramento based?
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Alan      |http://www.sonic.net/~alanwall
Jkay      |thank you again for sitting with us, Alan
DFDuck    |Oh ok. Thats Santa Rosa
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Alan      |A+ is in Sonoma County, an hour south from Carl Sassenrath.
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Jkay      |brb folks.
DFDuck    |I'm familiar with the area; was at the first Redwood Area ug 
          |meeting. Does its originator Dave Salas still frequent meetings?
Alan      |good by everyon thanks, got to get back to promotional duties
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          |is bad news).
«Nick»    |Alan is now known as venom.
«Quit»    |fleg_ (sponsfor@ip60-200.cap.primenet.com) has signed off (""Live 
          |for today - Remember Yesterday - Plan for tomorrow"  -  Peking 
          |Noodle Co.).
DFDuck    |Redwood Empire rather
aVENG3r   |is there a faq where i can read/see latest infos from the show ?
Locutus   |... and the french go in the lead
venom     |Hi everyone I am back. :)
Opus      |hi venom
Locutus   |oops, wrong channel, sorry
jalvarez  |France: 1   Brazil: 0   :)
aVENG3r   |jal: really ?
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          |channel.
jalvarez  |sure!
taza      |Hi Venom... How's spidey finding the show ?
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aVENG3r   |jal: fine, because brazil suxx
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          |socker).
taza      |Wow, there's NEWS... ;)
venom     |taza howdy! spidey didn't make it afterall.
jalvarez  |:)
Toffel    |taza : really???
taza      |Ah...
taza      |Toffel: Mais non, tais toi... ;)
taza      |venom: Too bad...
venom     |as far as the news or faq's, they tell me not that anyone knows 
          |of yet. Keep looking, as they all filter out news will be posted.
DFDuck    |Any other guest speakers scheduled?
taza      |venom: So you getting any goodies ?
aVENG3r   |anything REALLY interesting news from the show, yet ?
venom     |taza:  well, we had some probs. I really feel guilty, but not too 
          |guilty, still having fun. ;)
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Toffel    |where can i read amiwest news/logs?
venom     |I am wearing a spider pin in honor of spidey though. ;)
Tom--     |hi all
sadams    |hi Tom
Tom--     |sadams: hi, is there any news?
venom     |Toffel:   I am sure that the url I gave earlier will have some 
          |info, and there is always UGN, and I may put a blurb on my own 
          |page.
sadams    |Toffel: Maybe @ CUCUG after the close
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sadams    |Tom: sorry, no :(
aVENG3r   |venom: which url ?
DFDuck    |Any other guest speakers scheduled?
Toffel    |ok, thx
taza      |Venom: Yeah, we can catch your PIN on the CAM...
Tom--     |sadams: nothing in 3 days?
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sadams    |DFDuck: I thimk Kermit Woodall is goin to speak later :/
sadams    |think
venom     |I am told we are going to have surprise guest from the show, so I 
          |am turning it over to him
DFDuck    |sadams: Oooh!  Thanks
«Nick»    |venom is now known as amiwest.
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Locutus   |and where are the specs Bill promised?
Toffel    |surprise guest?
sadams    |Jay Miner
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Toffel    |yeah right :))
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          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 1:00AM PST Kermit Woodall of Novadesi
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sadams    |from beyond :)
jalvarez  |Did bill mention the specs for the MMC like me mentioned 
          |yesterday?
amiwest   |hahaha
Toffel    |although i believe jay still lives!
«Nick»    |pjsBRB is now known as pjs.
amiwest   |no it's not Jay, may he rest in peace
Locutus   |Jay's partying with Elvis
Toffel    |I love Jay; he cannot be dead! It's like Kurt Cobain!
VideoTeck |Jay would be a suprise thow :-/
amiwest   |everyone need to turn in on the webcam now
Jkay      |back
amiwest   |it will be a REAL treat
sadams    |RIP, Jay
Toffel    |Jay became too popular... that's why he is socalled dead
taza      |ami: Did you say "Teats" ????? ;)
Toffel    |Jay! Jay! Jay! Jay! Jay! =)
Opus      |display the webcam address please
sadams    |like "Paul is Dead!
Toffel    |www.amiga.org/webcam
taza      |amiwest: Asha's coming.... ;)
sadams    |turn me on deadman
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Toffel    |I get a weird page when i go to www.amiga.org
CyberWolf |Toffel: try WEB TV
TB        |Posters
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sadams    |Toffell:www.amiga.org/webcam/cam.jpg
Locutus   |"keep the momentum going"
TJoMMe_   |Has anything been announced at AmiWEST ?
sadams    |"boing your ball"
Toffel    |I get an M$ page when i go to amiga.org and i can't get access to 
          |cucug AWD!! I have an M$-virus on my computer!!!!!!
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Toffel    |shit
amiwest   |no
sadams    |Gates Sucks!
TJoMMe_   |amiwest:  isnt Amiga Inc/Int having any pressconferances at all 
          |at AmiWest ?
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TB        |Whats the treat?
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Jkay      |Alrighty .. we have with us now Bob Scharp .. Bob could you 
          |please introduce yourself
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BobScharp |Hi, this is Bob Scharp, owner of Amigan-St. Louis, the company 
          |that produces the Gateway Computer Shows, Amiga97, 98 and 99 etc.
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TB        |hahahah
Jkay      |If you have questions for Bob, please /msg me with a ? and I'll 
          |put you into the message queue. A question MARK only, not your 
          |entire question.
BobScharp |We also produce the Magic Mugs which change color.
Jkay      |ok, first question up. ..
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Jkay      |then the queue is CyberWolf ...
TJoMMe_   |When will Amiga Inc/Int announce further information aboute the 
          |Next Generation Amigas ??
BobScharp |I,m happy to announce that we have just signed the contract to 
          |hold the Amiga99 show, the St. Louis show, March 12, 13 and 14 at 
          |the
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BobScharp |fabulou Henry VIII hotel and conference center in St. Louis.
Jkay      |TJ: Bob runs the Amiga StLouis shows :) .. he doesnt work for 
          |AMiga Inc.
BobScharp |We are doubling the sized of our show again. This makes
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Jkay      |then the queue is CyberWolf, taza
BobScharp |the fifth year that we have produced the Gateway Computer Show, 
          |and the fifth
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BobScharp |time we have doubled the shows size and or venue.
CyberWolf |Has the kernal decision be done yet? GA
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |heh .. CyberW .. Bob is not an Amiga Inc employee :)
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taza      |So Bob, what would you say the attendance of this show is ? What 
          |suprised you most at this show ? What impressed you most at the 
          |show ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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BobScharp |I don't know the exact figures, but John told me that they ran 
          |out of attendance tickets yesterday. I believe they
BobScharp |had 500 tickets preprinted. You should really ask him for exact 
          |answers however. That;s John
BobScharp |Zacharaius.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |the question queue is tjomme_, VideoTeck
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TJoMMe_   |JKay: Ever thought of hosting an AmiWEST Newpage, that is updated 
          |regulary threwout the show....this would give the amiga people 
          |better feed back from the show, instead of having to deal with 
          |all the false rumourse that appears during the show time..
TJoMMe_   |oppss
TJoMMe_   |the question was for BobScharp
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Jkay      |I think he meant Gateway Show page. :)
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BobScharp |We are open to any ideas people propose to promote the show or 
          |give information on line. Limitations of course are
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BobScharp |cost and space. They should email me at bscharp@icon-stl.net
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Jkay      |the queue is VideoTeck, taza
VideoTeck |How much money does a party like amiga98/99 cost ? ;)
VideoTeck |ga
BobScharp |We spent aproximately $15,000 to get it started. Donations?
«Nick»    |Plush is now known as False.
BobScharp |This is why I'm not purchasing a tower this year.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |the queue is  taza, TJoMMe_
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taza      |So Bob, What new Amiga soft/hardware SUPRISED you most at this 
          |show ? What IMPRESSED you most at the show ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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BobScharp |The top sticker is Petro's. He sent some from Germany that I am 
          |giving away to people who come to the show.
Jkay      |If you have a question for Bob, who is an organizer of the huge 
          |St.Louis Gateway Amiga Show, please message me with a "?" and 
          |I'll put you into the queue.
BobScharp |The lower one is the bumper sticker that the GAteway Amiga Club, 
          |Inc. produces and sells. They are the Amiga club in St. Louis.
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BobScharp |ga
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TJoMMe_   |What I ment was, a page where all the announcements etc would be 
          |posted as soon as they had been made... even statements like that 
          |"amiga wont be announing anything here at AmiWEST", so that there 
          |wont be rumours floating around.. That could be hosted by you 
          |guys....the page would only be up during the show and lets s
TJoMMe_   |ay 1 week after....to prevent ppl from not knowing whats going on 
          |etc..I hate when rumours start to float about...
TJoMMe_   |the OFFICIAL AMIWEST NEWSPAGE
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TJoMMe_   |just stuff from the show
TJoMMe_   |announcements
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TJoMMe_   |transcripts of pressconferances etc
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TJoMMe_   |
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BobScharp |taza:  Attendance surprised me. Good attendace for a show that 
          |has not had any previous experience. Also we had not had a show in
BobScharp |CA for four years. Shows people are interested in Amiga.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |the queue is taza, toffel, CyberWolf, jalvarez
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taza      |So Bob, let's see if you can answer THIS question, which country 
          |do you hope wins the World Cup, France or Brazil ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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Jkay      |International Crowd here :)
BobScharp |TJoMMe_: We produce a web page that we place announcements on at 
          |this time. I am not familiar with the other method and will have
BobScharp |to catch up on what you are discussing. Please email me.
BobScharp |ga
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BobScharp |What's the WorldCup?
BobScharp |Guess kidding.
Jkay      |heheh
Jkay      |trying to start a soccr riot in here? :)
BobScharp |Germany actually. I've had to cry in my beer stein however.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |Toffel: .. your question is up .. go please.
Toffel    |Bob : I know Amigan-St.Louis organises the Gateway St.Louis show! 
          |But what else does Amigan-St.Louis do? For example on AmiWest now?
Toffel    |perhaps a stupid question, but I'm european :))
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Jkay      |Have we lost our guest?
TB        |looks like it.
TB        |No ping response.
Jkay      |the question queue is CyberWolf, jalvarez, taza, T-Rex, TJoMME_
Jkay      |odd. the network isnt lagged
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TB        |They havent been cut off either, the camera is still going
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Jkay      |well well .. the show people in California are hooked into the 
          |NORWAY server for some reason. I think it might be dead.
TB        |Im on the norway server
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Jkay      |hm!
Jkay      |I have no idea then
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TB        |I do...hang on
Jkay      |they are definately talking to *someone* ..
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          |his life, but the IRCop's are to quick for him. They catch up 
          |with him and take aim at him......).
TB        |Jk: I suggest a kill.  Make them relog. (no ping still)
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          |servers.).
TB        |There we go :)
Jkay      |but he's showing glasses to people .. disks
Jkay      |He's gotta be talking to someoen out there.
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TB        |Welcome back
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BobScharp |much better
Jkay      |the question queue is toffel, CyberWolf, jalvarez, taza, T-Rex, 
          |TJoMME_
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Toffel    |Bob : I know Amigan-St.Louis organises the Gateway St.Louis show! 
          |But what else does Amigan-St.Louis do? For example on AmiWest now?
Toffel    |perhaps a stupid question, but I'm european :))
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Jkay      |They make the cool products he's holding up at the moment :)
BobScharp |Toffel:  Amigan-St. Louis produces some products as well. One is 
          |the mug, the Magical Mug that we have just shown on the web. cam.
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BobScharp |As you know, the Amiga died a few years ago, however, the Amiga 
          |is MAGICAL, just like the mug. So when you pour
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BobScharp |hot liquid into the mug, it changes colors, and the check mark 
          |comes back to life...just like the Amiga!
BobScharp |The back of the mug has a black circle that says, "Look what's 
          |back" When it changes
Jkay      |nifty.
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BobScharp |color it becomes a smiley face and says "The Smile is back, 
          |because the AMIGA is back!"
VideoTeck |price ?
BobScharp |We are also selling Petro's CD's here at the show. If you want a 
          |mug, go to our website. www.amiga-stl.com and check our products.
BobScharp |ga
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CyberWolf |Bobb: 1) Were can I get the "AMIGA GATEWAY to teh Future" 
          |sticker? 2) Were there more AMIGA dealers or developers at the 
          |show? GA
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BobScharp |The price of the mug is $13 plus $5 s& h. At the show we offered 
          |it for $12 or $10 if you bought the CD at the same time for 
          |another $10, total
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BobScharp |of $20. Wish I could get less expensive shipping, but it's costly 
          |so far.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |Bob: CyberWolf's question came as you typed that reply
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BobScharp |The Gateway Amiga Club, Inc. produces two items at this time. A 
          |cozy, which you can put a soda can in to keep it cool. Iit has
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Jkay      |Bob ... if you look up the screen a bit, CyberWolf has a question 
          |there.
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BobScharp |two sides with one side showing the arch of ST. Louis with the 
          |other side stating "Gateway to the Future. They make good pencil  
          |holders too.
BobScharp |The bumper sticker is AMIGA Gateway to the Future with the St. 
          |Louis Arch showing. The bumper sticker is $1.00 plus .50 cents 
          |shipping I believe
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jalvarez  |Any discussion about the Quickpak situation or the new BoXeR on 
          |the show floor or meetings?  GA
BobScharp |Check out their web page. The cozy is $2.00 I am uncertain about 
          |the cost of shipping.
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BobScharp |Petro's CD is $10 and I have some short samples of it on my web 
          |page. www.amiga-stl.com  look under products.
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BobScharp |You will note i had some sun glasses on. These were sold by 
          |Robert Hamilton along with the shorts I'm wearing. He also has a 
          |line of clothing.
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BobScharp |Next I stopped by "Lively Computer" here at the show. They had 
          |beach balls for sale. This was about  $6.75 at the show. It looks 
          |alot like the boing
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BobScharp |ball. Cool! The Northwest Amiga Group, NAG, had the pins I'm 
          |wearing. I have the bug on my shoulder, and the pins on my right 
          |chest. "Powered
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BobScharp |by Amiga Users", and AMIGA, back for the Future". They had some 
          |others too.
BobScharp |Don Hicks of Amazing had his newest magazines out.
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BobScharp |These covered the Toronto show and the London Show. He is also 
          |taking iformation and getting ready to send out the Guide in 
          |September I
BobScharp |believe
BobScharp |ga
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BobScharp |Nick:
taza      |So Bob, while your wearing shopping for AmigaWEAR did you happen 
          |to see any New or Interesting Amiga Hard/Software ?
BobScharp |Nick:Thanks, I'll change it.
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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BobScharp |I purchased a copy of Cloato's program to put Amiga on my ibm 
          |laptop. That will come in handy when I am on the road.
BobScharp |ga
Jkay      |OK! Thanks to our Guest Bob Scharp of the Amiga StLouis show .. 
          |lets get his URL one more time .. BOB? What is it.
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taza      |Hmmm....
BobScharp |Photogenics was shown here. Very interesting product. ImageFX was 
          |also shown. That's a great product.
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taza      |Take Care Bob...
Jkay      |Thanks again, Bob
snapper   |define 'very interesting'
taza      |Hopefully there will be NEWS at next year's Gateway Show... ;)
sadams    |:)
DFDuck    |Kermit at 1:am ? 11 and a half hours from now? Really?
NiteFlite |Yawn
NiteFlite |AI seems to like WOA London.
DarkZombi |Anyone know what happened to interworks (i-net225)? Their web 
          |page is gone.
BobScharp |Jkay:  The URL for Amigan-St. Louis is:  http://www.amiga-stl.com 
          |           Thank's guys, fun typing with you. Bob
BobScharp |ga
snapper   |Their licesne expired 2 yers ago just like all the C= licenses
Jkay      |Bob: thanks .. we've run out of questions :) the channel is an 
          |open forum again.
taza      |Run out of QUESTIONS ?????????
sadams    |Bob: any left over mugs from previous Gateway shows?
taza      |More like answers... ;)
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          |die Lederhosen).
Jkay      |taza:shh
taza      |Jkay: :p
d9090     |Jkay will Bill McEwen be back on IRC, do ya know?
DFDuck    |/topic 1:00AM PST Kermit  ??
sadams    |Jkay: What the hell is a NICK!
Jkay      |Bill has gone home to kick the crap out of the other Amiga Inc 
          |people who bailed on him.
BobScharp |sadams: This mug I showed was the second in the series. The first 
          |is a collectors item. I produced 150. The factory burned down. 
          |That's all for
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taza      |Jkay: They BAILED on the Show, not just Bill... ;)
sadams    |Thanks, Bob
BobScharp |that mug. The second is a run of 500. I have some of these I am 
          |selling. I'll consider a third when these are sold.
BobScharp |bf
NiteFlite |Sucky show, great cam though.
VideoTeck |thx bob se yah in march
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Jkay      |I'm AFK for a few.
«Nick»    |Jkay is now known as Jkay_brb.
taza      |Bob: You need someone to add CAM pics to your WebPage Now... ;)
BobScharp |Got to go back to the booth.
BobScharp |ga
d9090     |Jkay  He was pissed, eh or you just hoping he does?..
taza      |Nite: YOU were there ?
DFDuck    |3rd time...  the topic isn't right is it? Kermit at 1:am ?
sadams    |Does anyone here think that CD is gonna get airplay in the 
          |States?
«Nick»    |BobScharp is now known as tekmage.
tekmage   |ok
NiteFlite |taza: Did I have to be in Chernobyl?
tekmage   |sorry Kermit is not here
tekmage   |Bob is more fun anyway! :)
taza      |*Ouch*
Toffel    |what is "to bail"?
sadams    |tekmage: How close is the new Gateway location in regards to the 
          |"Harley"?
snapper   |to cancel
T-Rex     |Toffel  US expression for "leave"
DFDuck    |tekmage: And 1:am is hours and hours away too ¦)
tekmage   |I can grab Kermit now and get 1/2 hour with him... ask lot's of 
          |PPC question :)
snapper   |to not show
snapper   |to stay home
spock1    |AM needs to be changed in the topic to PM.
T-Rex     |Toffel: as in BAIL out (like airplane)
snapper   |to chicken out
Toffel    |so Amiga Inc. wasn't there on the show?
NiteFlite |tekmage:  Paul wants you to 1] buy/order the show special Miami 
          |Deluxe, 2] Buy Tornado 3D for the free upgrade to the next 
          |version.
CyberWolf |sadams: here in Europe especially Germany the gropue NX (ANNEX) 
          |has made a contract with SONY to make the CD more public! I only 
          |heard it once on a German radio station.
snapper   |No, Bill McEwen was htere
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Toffel    |ok
tekmage   |after Kermit we have Holger who *HAS* a copy of Miami deluxe 
          |here... and now $25 from me :)
DFDuck    |Ooooh!
taza      |tek: That's the upgrade price from 3.0 ?
tekmage   |NiteFlite:  I'm not sure the price is a show special you can ask 
          |him :)
sadams    |CyberWolf: The States I think to be a tough sell, if you know 
          |what I mean :)
snapper   |Toffel it;s a joke, some amiga Inc people didn;t come that were 
          |expected so people make jokes as to why
Toffel    |:))
tekmage   |Bill McEwen has left the building
NiteFlite |tekmage:  Paul seems to want it.
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          |T-Rex[38.27.40.167], closing link).
taza      |Hey, that's not fair, he didn't offer upgrades at IA '98..... :(
taza      |hmph...
tekmage   |anyone want to talk to Kermit about PPC imageFX stuff?
snapper   |only cause you were there
sadams    |YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!
taza      |Can we also ask him about his Win98 release too ? ;)
tekmage   |hahaha
CyberWolf |sadams: I know. European tekno music is not mauch heard in the 
          |states. I do have the CD and the classical version sounds great.
sadams    |taza: bite ur tonge!
CyberWolf |tekmage: is Kermit online already?
tekmage   |no
taza      |sadams: Get a CLUE...
tekmage   |we are getting him
NiteFlite |Do the 5 members of Annex fight over who starts the mod file on 
          |the 1200?
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Toffel    |I love Sandra of ANNEX :)
tekmage   |NiteFlite:  there were not here
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tekmage   |re T-Rex
snapper   |surely there must be someone besides Kermit that goees to these 
          |shows ;)
pOMAc     |Toffel: Whitch one is that?
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          |l8r ppl......).
pOMAc     |=)
sadams    |taza: what r u incinerating?
«Topic»   |tekmage sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 2:00AM PST Holger Kruse... talking ab
Toffel    |pomac : the most beautiful one :))
TB        |tek: We want to speak to lostman damnit :)
AmigaMMC  |Bye guys.... see you at next show with great news. If Sun calls, 
          |that is...
T-Rex     |Kermit is Nova's "front man".
taza      |MMC: Uh huh....
tekmage   |topic ends "about miami Deluxe
tekmage   |"
tekmage   |hehe
NiteFlite |Golly, how was that UGN meeting?
pOMAc     |Toffel: The asian looking one?
CyberWolf |AMigaMMC: bye hav a nice day
taza      |Nite: I am STILL trying to find out about the LAST meeting.... :(
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tekmage   |NiteFlite:  I missed it again
taza      |Nite: Should only take another 30 days... ;)
tekmage   |taza:  which meeting?
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tekmage   |help
taza      |tek: UGN at IA '98.
tekmage   |gelp
snapper   |tekmage go grab some unsespecting exibitor that hasn;t done one 
          |of these and we'll break him in ;)
tekmage   |hellpppppppp......
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NiteFlite |Anone ask for a refund?
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«Nick»    |tekmage is now known as KermitND.
Toffel    |pomac : no, that's Georgette, also beautiful
KermitND  |Kermit is in the house!
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taza      |So Kermit, How so is the Win98 Version coming out ?
pOMAc     |Toffel: Heheh i have only seen some pics, None with all off em .. 
          |so..
CyberWolf |Hi Kermit
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«Nick»    |snapper is now known as Perry.
d9090     |Tigerwizz  Hey yer close.. Terre Haute IN here.. indy.net
Perry     |You get your code form books
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Perry     |he he he ;)
«Nick»    |Perry is now known as snapper.
snapper   |oh for the good ole days
KermitND  |You gots yer chances everyone. Fire away at me with your 
          |questions!
spock1    |Someone change AM to PM in the Topic!!!
CyberWolf |Hi Kermit: When will ImageFX support Mikrotek scanners? There's a 
          |programmer in Danemark would just made public betascan a scan 
          |prog for any scanner. It's driver can be used from within any 
          |program. Why not access this driver from inside ImagFX?
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taza      |So Kermit, How soon is the Win98 Version coming out ?
KermitND  |I don't know. I haven't seen it. Email me the info and I'll 
          |forward the info to our programmer.
NiteFlite |moderate
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KermitND  |Win98? We don't need to have that many crashes!
taza      |Kermit: Will you support more scanners in the next Version ?
Chas      |Win 98 will come out the same time as the siamese PCI, right?
KermitND  |Bill sez he tried to use a windows laptop here to run a network 
          |and it crashed when he put the modem card in. (obiligatory 
          |windows bashing)
pOMAc     |Chas: Win98 is out...
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jalvarez  |Kermit: The Amiga does not have a video editing application like 
          |Adobe Premiere, how about developing something similar for the 
          |Amiga?
KermitND  |We haven't announced what will be in the next version. Feel free 
          |to request things though!
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sadams    |Kermit: How far off is PPC Port for ImageFX?
taza      |Kermit: And Direct CyberVisionPPC Support ?
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          |channel.
T-Rex     |KermitND: did lostman give you the shades I sent for you?
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Chas      |POMAC: I'm being facetious. IFX will be out for win98 when it 
          |runs on siamese! :-)
sadams    |heheh!
pOMAc     |Chas: Hummm =))) Ahh
KermitND  |Draco has Movieshop which in many ways is better than Premiere, 
          |but they don't currently sell it for Amigas alone. If you can 
          |convince them to make it available as software alone that would 
          |happen faster than us redeveloping it.
NiteFlite |Kermit: Do you consider it a big risk to make PPC stuff with the 
          |uncertainty that P5 and H&P can support it?
KermitND  |No - I just picked up these shades from the table. I'll make him 
          |give me mine!
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KermitND  |The PPC addon package for ImageFX (which will REQUIRE Ifx 3) will 
          |be out later this year.
sadams    |Hey guys, lets call our Ami OS5 "Sreens", "Keeps bugs out!"
sadams    |Sreens=Screens
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KermitND  |No, our current users would want the PPC anyway to speed up their 
          |Toaster and Amiga systems when running IFX.
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KermitND  |PPC is a great move for us.
TB        |Ok everyone, standard rules apply.  If you have a question to ask 
          |msg me with a "?" and you'll be put in que.
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taza      |Kermit: Will you be releasing a LITE version of your software 
          |that would make it MORE afforable to MOST Amiga owners ? ie: 
          |$99US price point ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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KermitND  |No plans for that at the moment. That would simply divide our 
          |market and make it harder for us. We're always thinking about 
          |doing it. We will when the time is right.
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CyberWolf |Kermit: I haven't ugraded to the latest version of IMAGEFX yet, 
          |but does it have better support for CyberGFX cards as version 2.6
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CyberWolf |GA
TB        |When finished everyone, please type a GA.
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KermitND  |Yes, the CGX support is vastly improved. We use Smartrefresh now 
          |and Superlayers and Asynchronous redrawing to speed it all up and 
          |make it work better all around.
KermitND  |ga
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taza      |Kermit: Will you be offering more animations support ala MPEG1 
          |and 2 along with .avi, quicktime, etc
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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KermitND  |AVI and QT require $15k+ licensing fees - we're considering 
          |it...but it hasn't progressed beyond that.
KermitND  |ga
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CyberWolf |Kermit Electornic Design in Germany has doen a video editiong 
          |programm called SuperCut. It is a non digital system that 
          |supports 2 VCrs. Why not integrate such a program inside ImagFX?
CyberWolf |GA
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KermitND  |SuperCut is an Amiga program...which I haven't heard of yet. :) 
          |It's possible to integrate such things, but that is best done by 
          |them. I'll get with them when I'm at Koln (assuming they'll be 
          |there too) and talk it over with them.
KermitND  |ga
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taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
TB        |Try typing it in the right window taza :)
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KermitND  |ZZzzz....;)
taza      |I did...
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taza      |Kermit: Will we see an older version of Image/FX on a CU/Amiga 
          |Format CD now that 3.0 has been out for some time ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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KermitND  |They've approached us about this, but we haven't worked out any 
          |details yet. Also, if did do this it won't be a full version but 
          |a crippled version. We have 60,000 ImageFX owners worldwide...who 
          |are just using that 1.5 version. We'd PREFER to have 60,000 
          |upgrades but they're too happy with that old version. :(
KermitND  |ga
TB        |Kermit?  Still with us?
TB        |:)
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taza      |So Kermit, Now that France has won the World Cup, Who did you 
          |root for ?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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KermitND  |I've gotta go. I didn't root for anyone. I don't like basketball. 
          |Bye!
TB        |3:0 to France BTW.
TB        |Thanks Kermit.
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VideoTeck |hehehe
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T-Rex     |LOL!
TB        |Channels open.
taza      |OH Yeah...
Tigerwizz |Hehe..
Locutus   |basketball, eh?
taza      |I couldn't resist asking an American that question... ;)
taza      |Doh...
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StriderSR |who is next speaker?
taza      |But NO planned .avi/qt support SUCKS !
«Nick»    |KermitND is now known as tekmage.
taza      |Oh well...
Locutus   |where's holger?
KaosDKG   |x
_ego      |taza: You want to pay th4e $30,000?
Jkay      |taza: give them 30 thousand dollars and they'll do it
KaosDKG   |hi dudes!
taza      |ego: No, I want the SAME tools that are on OTHER platforms...
tekmage   |Locutus:  that is a VERY good question :)
KaosDKG   |what's the news ?
taza      |ego: Don't you ?
jalvarez  |No QT or AVI support = useless! :(
T-Rex     |taza: I think that kind of support might need to come from 
          |GW/AInc.  As a part of the OS.
Tigerwizz |T-Rex: Yeppers..
tekmage   |not at his table.... I would drag his laptop over here and show 
          |you all the Miami deluxe but he would KILL me :)
_ego      |taza: No.  I have better things I could do with that sort of 
          |money personally
CyberWolf |T-Rex: ImageFX as part of the NEW OS ;-)
T-Rex     |taza: would be nice then Everything could use it.
taza      |ego: Pardon ?
tekmage   |not for showing but for draging the laptop :)
NiteFlite |tekmage:  WHat new items appeared at the show? How was Harv 
          |Laser?
ActiveLow |tekmage: So he was demo'ing it?
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taza      |ego: They obviously YOU don't use need/use Video/Animations 
          |Tools...
tekmage   |ActiveLow:  is a way, he is showing the interface
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KOALA_    |MAVI 2.0 supports indeo avis!!!!!
taza      |tek: Seen ANYTHING new ?
Locutus   |tekmage: erm, miami... laptop... where's the connection?
NiteFlite |tekmage:  WHat new items appeared at the show? How was Harv 
          |Laser?
_ego      |taza: Unless I was serious earning money from it I STILL wouldn't 
          |want to shell out that amount
tekmage   |how?
ActiveLow |tekmage: the interface?? alot of good that does...8-)
tekmage   |umm Kermit is here
tekmage   |DOH!
KOALA_    |mavi rulezzzzzz
taza      |ego: Whatever, do you know how much IMAGE/FX currently costs ?
tekmage   |that OTHER kermit... Holger :)
«Nick»    |tekmage is now known as hkr.
hkr       |hi
ActiveLow |Tek: Who's the ugly guy in the blue shirt....LOL
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CyberWolf |Hi Holger
ActiveLow |oops...8(
KOALA_    |holger!!!!!
pOMAc     |HKR
ActiveLow |There goes my Miami registration...heheh
KaosDKG   |ALL: any news from AI ?
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          |peer).
VideoTeck |ActiveLow ;)
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taza      |So Holger, what's the upgrade price for the Miami Deluxe ? And 
          |how soon ?
NiteFlite |BTW Holger, Miami worked great with our user group's wireless 
          |modem demo.
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hkr       |taza:  usually $30. Today $25. MD should be ready in August.
hkr       |nf: good :)
Jkay      |Excellent
Eric75    |BaskBall ?? heu ? :-))
CyberWolf |Holger: Is there any threat to MIAMI 3/deluxe from the NEw 
          |NETCONNECT (AMITCP/IP) from Haage & Partner?
Jkay      |Holger: will I be able to junk Wingate and use the Ami as the 
          |gateway from now on?
sadams    |TB?
hkr       |wolf: I don't think so. AFAIK Amitcp Genesis is identical to 
          |AmiTCP 4.x, except for some new GUI config tools. No enhancements 
          |to the stack.
VideoTeck |hkr: do the next version have some sort of ctcp flood protection, 
          |since irc clients dont handle it ?
Eric75    |KOALA: I have bought MAvi and all .avi, .mov work fine.. RBM paid 
          |for that ??
hkr       |Jkay:  probably, yes. MD does SOCKSD and IP-NAT.
pOMAc     |VideoTeck: Amirc does
KOALA_    |hkr:i read on the miami site....that you're doing a ppc port of 
          |miami....but that some aspects of the ppc.library were lacking 
          |for you to program it....will you go your "way" or i u still 
          |waiting for p5 to do this job?
VideoTeck |poma: no it does not
sadams    |TB: Please tell me.. how do I message you? I mean, what's a 
          |"nick"?
NiteFlite |Holger, any chance you will help Amiga Inc on the next OS's TCP 
          |stuff?
pOMAc     |VideoTeck: Does to, Trust me
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hkr       |vt: Can't be done in the stack. CTCP is part of the IRC protocol.
petah     |Holger: With the introduction of AmigaOS 4/5, Internet (TCP/IP) 
          |communication will be fully integrated. Where does this leave 
          |Miami?
pOMAc     |VideoTeck: and it's none of miamis buissnies
pOMAc     |=)
VideoTeck |pomac: no we are talking smart flooders and dummie flooders here
VideoTeck |pomac: dummie flooders amirc takes
Jkay      |Alrighty. MODERATION time. Form up a queue .. message me, you all 
          |know the drill
hkr       |KOALA_:  I am waiting for *something* clear to come out of P5/H&P
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DFDuck    |The yet unreleased AmIRC does handle ctcp flooding. I know.. my 
          |name is in the about for helping fix that problem.
hkr       |nf: I don't know yet :)
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Jkay      |go taza
hkr       |petah:  that has yet to be determined.
taza      |So Holger, how do you like the show ? Seen anything interesting ?
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taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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Jkay      |If you have a question for Holger Kruse, the amazing author of 
          |the Amiga's best piece of software short of Toaster/Lightwave, 
          |message me with a single ? mark
hkr       |taza:  The Banquet was great. Carl showed pictures from the early 
          |Amiga days. Not many new things in the showroom though. Hardly 
          |any hardware.
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Jkay      |the queue is jalvarez, activelow, taza
Jkay      |Holger: please type "GA" (go ahead) when you are done
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jalvarez  |Holger, just a short like to thank you for revolutionizing the 
          |Amiga Internet Community with your great software! Thanks! :)  GA
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Jkay      |the queue is activelow, taza, KOALA_
hkr       |jalvarez:  was a lot of fun for me too :). GA
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ActiveLow |hkr: Any new network cards (multifunction) that might be coming 
          |out that you've heard of? Or anything new network related in 
          |hardware wise? GA..
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Jkay      |the queue is taza, KOALA_, petah
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hkr       |al: VT will release the Ariadne-II soon (NE2000-based, cheaper 
          |than the Ariadne). Some other company has announced the 
          |BitBooster. GA
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taza      |So Holger, Now that France has won the World Cup, Who did you 
          |root for ?
Jkay      |the queue is taza, KOALA_, petah, VideoTeck
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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hkr       |taza:  until the Croatia game: for Germany :). After that I more 
          |or less lost track... GA
Jkay      |the queue is  KOALA_, petah, VideoTeck, CyberWolf, taza, 
          |tigerwizz
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KOALA_    |hkr:are you close to p5 in that developement tools?
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Jkay      |could you re-phrase that please?
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hkr       |KOALA_:  "close" in the sense of development: not really. No 
          |contact. I don't have much time for that. I'd rather wait until 
          |they release a completed system. GA
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Jkay      |the queue is  petah, VideoTeck, CyberWolf, taza, tigerwizz
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petah     |Most developers know the BSD networking programming interface to 
          |be a real pain in the ass. Rumors have it you are considering a 
          |new API more suitable for "classic" AmigaOS. What is the current 
          |status on this project? GA
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hkr       |petah:  A proposal is on my web page (name "ANDI"). I don't think 
          |it a has a chance on the "Classic", but I'd like to see it in OS 
          |5. GA
Jkay      |the queue is  VideoTeck, CyberWolf, taza, tigerwizz
VideoTeck |Holger: Do you have any ctcp-flood protects in the new version of 
          |Miami. The current version only pops up with a dns about who is 
          |flooding me. Amirc is supposed to take ctcp-floods and do in many 
          |cases. But there are ways off awoiding it, luckyly not many nows 
          |about it yet. ? (amirc dont stop all, trust me)
VideoTeck |ga
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hkr       |vt: CTCP has nothing to do with Miami. It is a sub-protocol of 
          |IRC, and has to be handled (interpreted/protected/whatever) in 
          |the IRC client. GA
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Jkay      |If you have a question for Holger Kruse, the author of Miami, 
          |PPP.device, ReOrg and many other important Amiga applications 
          |please msg me with a question mark and I will add you to the 
          |queue.
Jkay      |the queue is  CyberWolf, taza, tigerwizz
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CyberWolf |Holger: Can I replace ENVOY with MIAMI 3.0 to do all networking 
          |with 3 (of my 7 AMIGAs) over Acrnet A2060 cards, and still being 
          |online with one AMIGA to the Internet? At the moment I can only 
          |run one MIAMI. GA
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          |to Kline[ppp13.cised.unina.it]: Connection reset by peer).
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hkr       |cw: Envoy is completely different from TCP/IP (Miami). You can 
          |run both at the same time if you use different packet types in 
          |Envoy.
hkr       |GA
Jkay      |the queue is  taza, tigerwizz, activelow, locutus
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to taza
taza      |Holger: Is there an upgrade path from registered PPP device users 
          |to Miami Deluxe ?
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taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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hkr       |taza:  Good question... Hmm.... Yes, I guess $10 discount. I have 
          |not really thought about it yet. GA
Jkay      |the queue is  tigerwizz, activelow, locutus
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Tigerwizz |Holgar: What kind of information has been made available so far 
          |about AmigaOS v4 and v5? Are you planning to develop for the new 
          |platform? ga
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hkr       |tw: info: so far close to none. I do want to support the new 
          |Amiga if there is a reasonable market for the kind of software I 
          |write. GA
Jkay      |the queue is  activelow, locutus, tigerwizz, taza
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to ActiveLow
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ActiveLow |hkr: in the PC world, I have a program called dialout/IP that 
          |connects a com port (com2:) to a modem on a remote machine 
          |(through a specific IP port), is there an amiga equivelant? like 
          |modem: to say port 2006 where a modem sits? usually this machine 
          |re-directs output to the client machine using cu /dev/modem....GA
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          |(http://www.cais.com/).
Jkay      |if you have a question for the unstoppable Holger Kruse, grand 
          |poohbah of the Amiga Internet Scene please message me with a 
          |single question mark to be included in the question queue
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          |error to Wendell[wendell.ndip.eskimo.net]: Connection reset by 
          |peer).
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hkr       |ActiveLow: I don't know really. Someone would have to write a 
          |serial.device-compatible tcptunnel.device, plus a corresponding 
          |server on the target machine.GA
Jkay      |the queue is  locutus, tigerwizz, taza, Spock1
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to Locutus
Locutus   |hkr: didn't you at one stage have a "LAN booster" type thing in 
          |the works? ga
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          |(Stakk jeg...  :-)).
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hkr       |Locutus:  yes, ready for release in the next version of Miami and 
          |MD. Works with all native Amiga Ethernet boards (except 
          |Warpengine-Ether), and with GG2-NE2000. Name "MNI". GA
Jkay      |the queue is  tigerwizz, taza, Spock1, commish
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to Tigerwizz
Tigerwizz |Holger: I have an old A500 /w AmigaOS v2.05 installed. Is there a 
          |version of Miami that will work on that system? I'd like to use 
          |the net on it, but don`t really feel like putting anymore money 
          |into another rom and OS for it. ga
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hkr       |tw: Miami 3.0b should work. You might not be able to use the 
          |builtin driver though. Some users reported problems with that on 
          |an 000. I don't know why yet. Use artser.device instead. GA
Jkay      |the queue is  taza, Spock1, commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to taza
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taza      |Holger: What do you see as your next project beyond Miami Deluxe 
          |?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
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Jkay      |the queue is   Spock1, commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, Eric75, 
          |d9090, pOMAc
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          |2.8.2-EPIC4pre1.001 -- Starting all over again.).
Jkay      |have we lost Holger?
TB        |yup.
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Jkay      |the cam shows him typing something ..
TB        |hes lagged.
Jkay      |oops. looks like the inmage is frozen too
Jkay      |it is.
Jkay      |ok, we're unmoderated until Holger gets back then we start over 
          |with Taza.
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taza      |Ah... What a LOVELY Day.... :)
Jkay      |the channelis open for discussion while AmiWEST re-connects
T-Rex     |You mean Miami crashed on Holger?  ;)
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          |timeout).
taza      |Yes, let's discuss ALL the AmiWEST '98 News... :)
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          |Terminating).
laire     |jkay: why moderated ?..is there anything worthy to be said ?:-)
Scimitar  |Did Holger say when MD is going to be released?
taza      |laire: Sure there is...
taza      |August.
d9090     |JKay.. can you kill me in the queue..?  I have to go..
Locutus   |i think the miami demo timed out
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T-Rex     |Locutus:  :)
pOMAc     |Scimitar: There will be a beta after this show afaik
Jkay      |Laire: he was burried under questions. I have 6 people in line to 
          |ask. Don't be thick :)
Jkay      |d9090: ok
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CyberWolf |What system runs the WEbcam? Again the PAWS 1200 as from the Show 
          |in Toronto?
pOMAc     |laire: Shall we all ask you something instead? =)
TB        |Amiga3000
JoeG      |anything new on Amiga TNG ?
laire     |pomac: sure you can ask...you just won`t get answers:-)
DFDuck    |A3000 and a VLab
Scimitar  |Great! Thanks taza, pOMac :)
Locutus   |laire: what shoes do you wear?
pOMAc     |laire: *rotfl*
MustangVR |anyone know the latest progress on the Siamese PCI amiga?
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taza      |So laire, I hear CVPPC are shipping, got one ?
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CyberWolf |DFDuck: I have a VLAB too but apparently one IC blew off!
Jkay      |Scimitar: Holger is showing Miami Delxe right now at the show, 
          |and selling it in advance for a special show price
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T-Rex     |DFDuck: do you know the software they are using?  To make the 
          |VLab grab images and upload.
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DFDuck    |CyberWolf: Well that sucks. I've got a webcam I wrote using a 
          |vidiamiga24RT.
Scimitar  |Jkay: How much is that?
laire     |taza: do you seriously think that`s a worthy question or is it 
          |only a "i`m bored..let`s asked something" question ?:-)
KOALA_    |holger:do you plan about programming a phone by internet 
          |soft...like amiphone....but stable and that will work...without 
          |crashes? we would benefit a lot as u know much well all the tcp 
          |ins and outs....and finally we'll got a descent program for 
          |speaking through the net...
Cryto     |Jkay: He gonna get some screenshots for us at home to look at? :)
Jkay      |sch: $25 US
TB        |T-Rex: ImageFX and Arexx.
CyberWolf |T-REX: there are 4 programs to use the VLAB: the original, an EGS 
          |Version, a CGX version and another one.
Locutus   |25 USD for md?
KOALA_    |what has miami deluxe new??????????
taza      |laire: So WHO did you root for in the World Cup now that France 
          |has WON it ?
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Locutus   |taza: oh shut up
Scimitar  |That's not bad
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DFDuck    |I've been wondering how they get the timestamp on the bottom of 
          |the cam pic. Does the vlab software allow for doing that?
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Jkay      |Locutus: thats an upgrade price. and a show special
Locutus   |alright, who's at amiwest?
MustangVR |KOALA_: I don't think the amiga can do a video phone too well. 
          |unless you have an 060
T-Rex     |TB: kewl then I have all i need.  (except a talent for Arexx 
          |programming.)  ;)
taza      |Jkay: Actually, it might be $30US... $25US Sounded like a SHOW 
          |Special....
Jkay      |yes
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d9090     |Bye fowks .. have a better one..
snapper   |taza Who did you root for inthe World Cup now that you have 
          |abandoned your Amigas ?
KOALA_    |mustang:060 and ppc ;)
TB        |T-r: Well, thats what I belive we do it with, I havent checked 
          |recently, AmFTP is alow used.
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          |CliEnt ExiTiNg!).
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MustangVR |KOALA_: PPC feh
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          |for hkr[sac12-69.calweb.com]).
T-Rex     |TB: I guess IFX could easily add the timestamp.
laire     |taza: the WM was the most boring WM i can remember(and i remember 
          |down to 82:-)...though the french have won justified
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KOALA_    |what is new in miami deluxe?
taza      |snapper: Huh ? This is a 3000, I am typing on.... Using Miami, 
          |n'est pas... :)
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TB        |t-r: yup. Arexx script to add a font etc etc then from the time 
          |variable etc
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snapper   |taza Just going by what you said yesterday
DFDuck    |T-Rex: Well.. Casey has the arexx expertise so I'm told. Maybe he 
          |can help you there. If not.. I can ¦)  Arexx is what I've done 
          |for 12 years now.
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taza      |snapper: Okay...
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          |Alvin_[t5o13p52.telia.com]: Connection reset by peer).
snapper   |tza But you get the point ;)
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T-Rex     |DFDuck: Maybe in combination with FTPmount?
Ratleto   |still nothing new?
taza      |snapper: The POINTLESSness, yes... ;)
MrDaniel  |laire: well... Brazil was lousy this match... No surprise the 
          |france won. :)
snapper   |taza me, not on an Amga... get a cloo ;)
TB        |hahaha, AmIRC is about to autoaway coz aparently I have been away 
          |from the kb for 20 years :)
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DFDuck    |T-Rex: Thats an idea. For mine I used AmiFTP to send to remote. I 
          |think thats what Casey used for the AmiWest cam also.. I think 
          |thats what he told me last night.
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Cryto     |Maybe someone needs to send holger a keyfile for Miami? :)
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snapper   |the pot calls the kettle black
Wedgie    |hi there
Jkay      |cam activity
taza      |fuzzy cam activity...
KOALA_    |hey don;t flood hkr...you make him down ;)
T-Rex     |DFDuck: I think it would simplify the script.  Rather than having 
          |to add FTP parts.
taza      |Station Break...?
Cryto     |A freaked out webcam pic...
Cryto     |That, or something is wrong with my Gfx baord... :)
laire     |mrd: what do you expect from a lousy WM
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T-Rex     |Holger, you look different!  ;)
Locutus   |Cryto: p5? :)
«Nick»    |sasc is now known as tekmag.
tekmag    |we are back!
tekmag    |power outage
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          |MrFloppy[silly.com]: EOF from client).
CyberWolf |The WEBcam is back again
Cryto     |Locutus: Yep...  CV64/3D.
Wedgie    |what the address for the webcam ?
«Nick»    |tekmag is now known as hkr.
DFDuck    |T-Rex: Been awhile since I looked at ftpmount. I think I'll dig 
          |it out and see how easy it would be to impliment. I'm a shell 
          |user and would rather not have a GUI in my way just to send a cam 
          |pic to remote.
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«Error»   |#amiwest98 Cannot send to channel
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Jkay      |the queue is   taza, Spock1, commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, 
          |Eric75, d9090, pOMAc
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to taza
taza      |Holger: What do you see as your next project beyond Miami Deluxe 
          |?
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from taza
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          |servers.).
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          |exiting).
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«OP»      |TB gives channel operator status to hkr
hkr       |back. Power outage again...
Jkay      |the queue is   taza, Spock1, commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, 
          |Eric75, d9090, pOMAc
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to taza
taza      |Holger: What do you see as your next project beyond Miami Deluxe 
          |?
taza      |Go Ahead... :-)
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from taza
hkr       |taza:  I don't know yet. Probably something for OS 4/5. GA
Jkay      |WELL!
Jkay      |the queue is    Spock1, commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, 
          |Eric75, d9090, pOMAc
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to spock1
spock1    |hkr: Out of curiousity, what dev tools did you use in making the 
          |wonderfull Miami which I Use? GA
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from spock1
hkr       |spock1:  SAS/C, CygnusEd. GA
Jkay      |the queue is    commish, arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, Eric75, d9090, 
          |pOMAc
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to Commish
Commish   |hkr: Any plans on updating ReOrg for big drives?  GA
«Voice»   |Jkay removes voice from Commish
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Jkay      |Holger ? :)
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Jkay      |whoops
TB        |:)
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          |channel.
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Jkay      |connecting
TB        |Because its the best.
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Jkay      |cough
TB        |Im using it now...
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Jkay      |YOU are on the swedish server
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TB        |Oh yeah :)
Jkay      |everyone on Thule slid out in a split
TB        |brb
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Jkay      |change servers holger :)
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Jkay      |talk for a while
pOMAc     |Gah...
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Jkay      |there we go
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Jkay      |commish: you're up again
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Commish   |hkr: Any plans on updating ReOrg for big drives?  GA
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hkr2      |lag...
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Jkay      |hkr2: the curent question is "will you update ReOrg for th newer 
          |bigger drives avaialble?
hkr2      |no. Would take months just to get it to compile again with SAS/C 
          |6.58. Adding support for > 4GB would be a LOT of work, because 
          |ReOrg internally uses 24-bit block numbers all over the place, to 
          |save memory. GA
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Jkay      |the queue is arvid, CyberWolf, koala_, Eric75, pomac
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Jkay      |holger: if you have shelved ReOrg, maybe you could offer the 
          |source to an interested party. It is the fasters re-org'r around.
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TB        |Jk: Arvids gone, next person.
hkr2      |Jkay:  possibly, but probably not any time soon. Besides the 
          |sources are in really bad shape, at least for 3.x. ReOrg 2.x was 
          |much better. Some of the new features in 3.x made things messy. GA
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Jkay      |the queue is CyberWolf, koala_, Eric75, pomac, pjs
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CyberWolf |Holger: Which PCMCIA Ethernet card is supported by MIAMI? I want 
          |my A600 to be connected to an Ethernet Network. GA
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hkr2      |cw: directly supported: none. You would need a SANA-II driver for 
          |that. Choices are cnet.device and icard.device. cnet.device 
          |supports many boards. GA
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Jkay      |the queue is    koala_, Eric75, pomac, pjs
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KOALA_    |holger:do you plan about programming a phone by internet 
          |soft...like amiphone....but stable and that will work...without 
          |crashes? we would benefit a lot as u know much well all the tcp 
          |ins and outs....and finally we'll got a descent program for 
          |speaking through the net...
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hkr2      |KOALA_: no such plans at the moment. I don't have time for it. 
          |Feel free to do it yourself though :) GA
Jkay      |the queue is    Eric75, pomac, pjs
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Eric75    |Hello Holger, Is it possible to know how many people are 
          |registred around the world ? GA
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Jkay      |if anyone has a question for our guest, Holger Kruse, please /msg 
          |me with a ? mark and I'll add you to the question queue
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hkr2      |Eric75: possible for me: yes :) GA
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Jkay      |heh
Jkay      |the queue is   pomac, pjs
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Jkay      |duh!
«Voice»   |Jkay gives voice to pOMAc
pOMAc     |Hkr: Hi =) , Someone who had seen your demonstration mentioned 
          |new firewall abilities, So i wonder whats new etc? And will there 
          |be skip shpport or ability to make plugins for stuff like that?
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pOMAc     |-h =)
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hkr2      |pOMAc: Miami Deluxe has a built-in configurable firewall, IP-NAT 
          |(with port mapping for servers) and SocksD.
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hkr2      |Other modules will be released later. There is no defined API for 
          |third-party plugins yet. GA
Jkay      |the queue is   pjs, NANh
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pjs       |hkr: Hi Holger, Paul here - 1]  Can we get the show 
          |pre-registration for Miami Deluxe here (online)?    2] Could you 
          |please jab Bill and remind his important self that he can still 
          |answer messages sent to him!  Thanks! - Prosit!   See you in Ohio!
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pjs       |GA
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hkr2      |pjs:  Hi there :)  1] no, sorry. Too many technical problems with 
          |that. 2] Consider him jabbed :)
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NANh      |Could you tell us a bit about MNI and how it will help with Amiga 
          |networking.  (and jab Bill for me too)  GA
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hkr2      |NANh: MNI is a new API for Ethernet drivers, closer to BSD than 
          |to SANA-II. Typically 15-30% faster than SANA-II. Also makes it 
          |easier to port existing BSD/Linux drivers to AmigaOS. GA
Jkay      |the queue is  .... Cryto
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Cryto     |Holger:  Will Miami Deluxe have IP Masquerading, and PPPd?  If 
          |so, will it have ARexx support for letting other programs use it, 
          |such as CNet? GA
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hkr2      |IP-masq/NAT: yes. PPPD: no, perhaps later. GA
Jkay      |the queue is T-Rex, Laire, Tigerwizz
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T-Rex     |Where are your Amiga Shades Holger?  ;)   GA
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Jkay      |the queue is  Laire, Tigerwizz
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laire     |hkr2: why do you wanna create a new driver API though no HW will 
          |be done for it anymore and as it has no future for a new OS AInc 
          |buys in GA
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Jkay      |whoops
tekmage   |re be laged
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tekmage   |pjs:  I HAVE NO MONEY
tekmage   |oops
tekmage   |put a /msg in front of that
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Jkay      |alrighty. Holger has left the arena :)
fibbs     |Jkay: why?
Jkay      |thanks to him whereever he is.
fibbs     |he didnt answr that last question
Jkay      |I have no idea. I see tekmage there now, and Holger gone
laire     |heh...my question probably was too tough:-)
pjs       |tekmage: there ya go...   :-)
Locutus   |goodnight Holger... where-ever you are
HMetal    |argh! No PPPd and no 3rd party plug-in API. :(
HMetal    |thanks for the Q&A holger.
pjs       |Thanks Holger!  We're looking forward to MD!
NANh      |PPPd? Why do you want that?
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Jkay      |for their BBSs
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HMetal    |Yes.. For spawning PPP sessions from BBSes and other front-door 
          |type programs.
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laire     |if you pay me decently
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Llama     |get a  cloo ;)
HMetal    |WorldGroup on the PC has had it forever.  We need it on the 
          |amiga.
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          |(http://www.interlog.com/~dolish/taza.htm).
Llama     |Sell the Porsche wanker
Locutus   |tekmage: say, would you get em a copy of MD? :)
Tigerwizz |HMetal: Workgroup sucks!
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HMetal    |Tiger: I don't give a rat's a$$ if it sucks or not.. It has 
          |FEATURES that we need access to. :)
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Tigerwizz |HMetal: Maybe true..
HMetal    |Tiger: And if I didn't agree about it sucking, I wouldn't be the 
          |coder of CNet Amiga. :)
robby2    |any news from amiwest ?
Tigerwizz |lol
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Monty     |no no news just bs
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robby2    |ah... ok..
Zer0      |X_MaN: Hello! Do I know you? Or do I just have the same nick?
Llama     |laire I'm don;t see any reason to abondon S2 drivers, we still 
          |use that and add a couple extensions, no need to change it all 
          |ocmpletely, and 30% speed increase for an ethernet S2 driver is 
          |just ludacrous unless the driver was complete crap
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TB        |Hi joe
onebit    |hello!
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laire     |well...Sana2 has several speed problems...but whatever..inventing 
          |a new API today makes no sense anymore
Llama     |Put Rmerlin in the hot seat for mindLink ;)
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NiteFlite |Onebit:  where are ya?  Hotlanta?
fibbs     |onebit: oy, give us some news :)
pjs       |onebit: Howdy!  Sufferring boing show deprivation?  :-)
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Zer0      |No Sorry! I just took my nick from Zer0 in Nightmare Before 
          |Christmas and Billy Corgan.
Llama     |laire where are the speed problems you see ?
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tekmage   |ok!
NANh      |bill: I see no banners still.
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tekmage   |we are having BIG lag problems here
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TB        |tek: notice joes here? :)
tekmage   |I have another guest with me now, Frank Davis at FWD Computing
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TB        |Hang on...
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TB        |tek: Your show.
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TB        |I think we just lost the guest again.
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TB        |Ok, unmoderated until they can come back.
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Llama     |laire where are the speed problems you see ?
Llama     |laire serial S2 drivers sure, for second layer protocols like ppp 
          |definatetle suffer, but not an ethernet
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Cryto     |Wish Holger would write a PPPd in Miami Deluxe, or make it so 
          |that others could do it...
TB        |one: So, what have you been doing this weekend? :)
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Zer0      |Any rules I should know about? My second time using IRC
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NANh      |cryto: Run unix.
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herb      |ya's should take this to efnet or something
Llama     |laire Or are you refering simply to the overhead for exec i/o as 
          |opposed to a procedural call
sadams    |Is Joe Torre the next speaker?
fibbs     |Zer0: just one.. just dont touch snappers sheep! he gets very 
          |edgy if you do that.  :)
NiteFlite |Sigh.
onebit    |Well, I think Kermit made a good point when he said the net was a 
          |good vehical for negative feedback, and a poor one for good. This 
          |whole amiga thing is gonna take a long time, and I suggest we do 
          |what we can with what we have allways had; Our Amigas.
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«CTCP»    |Got PING request from herb.
sadams    |Iee Want CANDY!
NiteFlite |onebit: I think the problem was with the promises made by the 
          |show organizes as well as others.
Riley     |onebit: where are you atm?
Llama     |Lets have something new, put Rmerlin in the hot seat for mindlink 
          |;)
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sadams    |Iee Want CANDY!
Cryto     |NANh: CNet (And all my other stuff) doesnt run under unix........
fibbs     |onebit: Yesterday Bill McEwen said he'd be giving specs of the 
          |different *chips* Amiga Inc are looking at. He failed to do so. 
          |Do you think you could inform us instead? And we've all heard 
          |"decoding 4 mpegs at once" and "400 million pixels per second".. 
          |What about the others? Not trying to be negative btw.. Just want
          |some info!
Zer0      |X_MaN:Ouch, but I dont care, unless he does not like me using it 
          |and tells me so.
Llama     |Or Gandalf if he;s here yet, or MoxNix for AmiChat
Llama     |Or Zap
NiteFlite |Llama: Or you?
NorthWay  |the fine thing about the net is that it makes it so easy to say 
          |what you think. AI has an upwards struggle all the way until the 
          |get some names and products on the table
onebit    |With no OS upgrade from AI, then all we have is what have allways 
          |had; the best Shareware wrighters and archive on earth.
onebit    |BTW, I am un-wavering on my love of 68k/PPC ASM and it uses 
          |in-the-mean-time.
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Llama     |NiteFlite For what Frexxie ?
NANh      |cryto: Ahh.. BBSes.. I remember those.. got out of running mine 
          |in '94 when I saw the internet getting popular.
NiteFlite |Llama: Sure.
Llama     |NiteFlite no ones prabably seen it ;)
onebit    |Can anyone read what I just ranted?
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fibbs     |onebit: yeah I read ya
Riley     |onebit: just ;-)
Cryto     |NANh: Thats why I want a PPPd, can run a BBS, but offer Internet 
          |services at the same time.  So instead of a Unix shell, people 
          |can have a BBS, which is alot easier to use...
sadams    |onebit: yes, I can :)
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Trolls    |Cryto: BBSes are dead, enter the 90s ;)
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sadams    |onebit: r u there?
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Llama     |NiteFLite dnlt you htink it;s a bit too much techie/developer 
          |oriented for a general user Q&A
Cryto     |Trolls: No they aint....  In some areas yes, but in others, they 
          |are thriving quite well...
fibbs     |nooooo we've lost onebit!
JT        |a netsplit every 5 minutes...
pOMAc     |Joker
TB        |We realy shouldnt be hassling him on the weekend anyway
Joker     |yo
NANh      |cryto: Setting up the internet on a computer these days has 
          |become quite trivial. Especially with all the ISPs offering all 
          |you need to get connected.
Tigerwizz |Anyone know the status of an ICQ solution for Amiga? I know some 
          |people were using mICQ. Any info on that?
sadams    |netsplits suck!
NiteFlite |Llama:  Well we need filler here.
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Llama     |STR-ICQ is the current one people use and like
Manowar2  |tigerw:Str-ICQ MUI is very nice
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[X_MaN]   |Onebit:I read that, was that for the Moo Bunny guys waiting to 
          |attack you;)
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tekamge   |ARRRRGGGGG
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TB        |tek: Spell ya nick right next time :)
tekamge   |um, I  think is MIGHT work now.... it's the hotel's phone system
tekamge   |TB:  hahaaha
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onebit    |Did the webcam freeze also?
«Topic»   |Frank sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of UGN IRC speakers 
          |[Next speaker at 4:00AM PST Frank Davis... talking ab
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TB        |Frank: Mind doing an intro for everyone?
onebit    |Tekmage is gone again...
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Frank     |We have just recently started doing mail order for software for 
          |the Amiga
Frank     |GA
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TB        |If you have questions, msg me.
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fibbsy    |Frank: you planning on setting up an actual shop sometime? maybe 
          |when the Amiga situation improves?
fibbsy    |GA
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Frank     |I have been working with computers since 1974, on minis and main 
          |frames. We started producing computer shows in 1986.
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          |in my head say "Go back to bed").
TB        |Please put a GA when your finished typing.  Thanks.
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Frank     |fibbsy; We are presently doing 26 total computer shows a year, 
          |and mail order. Not enough time now for an actual shop.
Frank     |GA
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NiteFlite |onebit: Was there really any info planned to be released in 
          |Sacramento?  Was it delayed or just hopefulness by the show 
          |organizers?GA
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TB        |Frank: Still alive?
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Frank     |TB: Any other people wanting to ask questions?
Frank     |GA
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NANh      |Are you developing software for the Amiga? Or just reselling it?
NANh      |GA
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Frank     |NANh: We arre also in the process of developing for the Amiga. We 
          |hope to do a release on this soon to some of the magazines.
Frank     |GA
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fibbsy    |Frank: 1. What stuff do you deal in?  2. What are you doing to 
          |promote the Amiga? (interesting how you mentioned 26 shows a year 
          |before)
fibbsy    |GA
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TB        |Frank appears to be lagged, so have patients.
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Frank     |fibbsy: WE stock and sell mostly Amiga CD ROMs and the latest 
          |disk based games. What we are working on is becoming the largest 
          |retailer of Amiga CD ROMs in North America.
Frank     |GA
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sadams    |Do you/plan to advertise in the Amazing Amiga/Amiga Informer? GA
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Frank     |sadams:We have started advertsing in the Informer (last issue and 
          |next coming up). We are presently doing up an ad for the next 
          |available issue of Amazing> Presently putting our catalog up at 
          |our web site: http://members.tripod.com/~FWDcomputing/
Frank     |GA
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TB        |Ok, Question que is empty.  if you have questions msg me a "?"
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Frank     |TB: I have time for one more question, if there is one.
Frank     |GA
TB        |yup
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pjs       |Frank: What kind of slaes pattern have you seen with Amiga 
          |merchandise over the last couple of years?  things just stable, 
          |declinign, picking up any?
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pjs       |GA ... thanks
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TB        |The que is now closed
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Frank     |pjs: For us, our sales have been good. We have been increasing 
          |what we sell. We have found fIRLY GOOD SALES, EVEN AT SHOWS THAT 
          |ARE NORMALLY PC ONLY. VERY GOOD SALES OF AMIGA FOREVER AT GENERAL 
          |COMPUTER SHOWS. MOST TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT HAD AN AMIGA.
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TB        |Frank appears to have gone anyway :(  So, we'll go unmoderated 
          |now.
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Frank     |TB: I need to sign off for now and get back to my booth. Those 
          |wishing to contact me can via email at: fdavis@iquest.net. We 
          |page (of course under construction, 
          |http://members.tripod.com/~FWDcomputing/ Thank you.
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«Lag»     |Server finally answered; total server lag was 11.0s
«Nick»    |Frank is now known as lostman.
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          |alla prossima!).
lostman   |thanx all for joining us!!!  Its been fun.  I hope it was 
          |informative
«Nick»    |Aztekk is now known as falcor.
TB        |Losty!!!!!!!!!!!!
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          |http://www.cs.uit.no/~troels/webtv.html).
lostman   |TB:  thanx for moderating
lostman   |:)
TB        |lost: my pleasure ;)
T-Rex     |Lostman!  Hey there!
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falcor    |ok now I have been trying to be nice but I am not getting any 
          |responces from you people.  so  (bark!!!!!!)
Cryto     |When is the webcam gonna start updating again?? :)
TB        |lost: So, what did you steal for me at the show? ;)
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T-Rex     |lostman: how did we do on sales?
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falcor    |T-REx: how the heck are you?   DO you remember me from Friday?
lostman   |TB: who me? ??
TB        |yeah you
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fibbsy    |Whens the next guest?? and how many hours away is he/she ?
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Llama     |Put Gandalf in the hot seat for Eucalyptus
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falcor    |Come on now.  I know that there had to be an anouncement>
falcor    |Please say that there was>
Riley     |nope
T-Rex     |It was announced that there was nothing to announce. ;(
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lostman   |hey T-Rex
falcor    |T-Rex:  Hey man that bite from Friday is still sore.  :)
Llama     |stop slapping and start taking questions ;)
falcor    |T-Rex: Plese no more Dino drool  :)
Gandalf   |heh
T-Rex     |lostman: so, how were sales?
Llama     |How many people here have heard of Eucalyptus ?
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Locutus   |lostman: had good sales?
onebit    |I have!
KOALA_    |llama:me
JT        |llama: what's eucalyptus?
Llama     |Gandalf Get up there and tell'em ;)
T-Rex     |I tried Eucalyptus once.
robby2    |onebit: what ? announcements ?
Moloch    |Aint dat some sorta email thangy?
Wedgie    |llama: yep i use it
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T-Rex     |I'm more of a YAM user though.
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falcor    |Come on people?  this is an Amiga Channel plese talk Amiga 
          |news!!!
Llama     |Gandalf <-- eucalyptus author and marketting manager, get him in 
          |the seat ;)
Wedgie    |llama: though I use Voodoo the most
T-Rex     |YAMs are yummy.  Or was that Lambs?  ;)
falcor    |How many of you were actually at the show.
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Cryto     |Llama: Never heard of eucalyptus...  (Other than the leaf... :)
JT        |bye...
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          |portrait carnival toolbox lipstick menace gyroscope kenneth 
          |socket bread binoculars telephone palace japan microwave).
Llama     |Gandalf comon, get up there and explain it ;)
MiMe      |was there really no good news at all on the show? poor imho.
Gandalf   |Wanna find out about Eucalyptus?  Visit 
          |http://linux.tc3net.com/gandalf ;)
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Cryto     |Gandalf: lazy.... :)  Explain it.. :)
Gandalf   |Llama: Okay, hotshot...
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falcor    |Well,  since you gentlemen  and ladys  have no anouncements.  
          |Goddbye!!!!!!!!!
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Gandalf   |Eucalyptus is a multi-threaded MIME-compliant advanced e-mailer.  
          |It's the best e-mailer, IMHO, of course. :)
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Cryto     |Gandalf: Ok, whats it got over Yam, that will make me wanna 
          |switch?? :)
onebit    |Finally an answer!
lostman   |TB:  Take over for me.  We have to pack up.   KarlosI wants to 
          |speak on the ICOA
Gandalf   |Cryto: It doesn't use MUI.
TB        |ok.
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KarlosI   |TB ;)
TB        |Karlos: Want moderation?
Cryto     |Gandalf: Definate +. :)  What does it use?
KarlosI   |TB: No non-moderate is fine
TB        |go then
Gandalf   |ClassAct
Cryto     |Gandalf: Ok..  WHat other stuff in it?
robby2    |onebit: :=)
KarlosI   |Hello fellow Amigans I'm here to speak to you about what the ICOA 
          |is and what it represents to the users and deelpers of the AMiga!!
KarlosI   |developers even
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sadams    |So?...
herb      |I want whatever drug MrD is taking
KarlosI   |First all let me just out line a couple things about the ICOA. 
          |First, The Industry Council Open Amiga (ICOA, pronounced 
          |Eye-Sea-Oh-Eh) is a co-operative forum where developers can come 
          |together to work upon mutually beneficial projects
sadams    |It's called "Amigzac!"
herb      |I'll take an ounce of that, then
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KarlosI   |What it deos for Amiags users is brings the developers together 
          |to form standards for the Amiga, thus bringing compatibility 
          |between many games and apps.
lostman   |vnt says reeeeeee!!!!!!!
sadams    |Karlos: Sorry, continue please
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TB        |Kar: Go ahead
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KarlosI   |The ICOA has officail support and backing by Amiga Incorporated, 
          |anything which the ICOA submits to them whether a standard or 
          |agreement which has been created from one of the many working 
          |groups Amiga Incorporated will consider and consult furhter with 
          |the ICOA!
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KarlosI   |Some of the projects the ICOA will be rsponsible for will be:
KarlosI   |  o the creation, collation and free publication of HW and SW 
          |standards, guides and documentation, both third party and OS 
          |specific for the benefit of the whole community
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KarlosI   |    the setting of short, medium and long term strategic goals 
          |for the platform from a developers point of view
KarlosI   |  o building a profitable partnership with the owners and users 
          |of the Amiga
KarlosI   |  o providing a representative body for present and future Amiga 
          |developers
KarlosI   |  o providing a rich resource set for all developers, 
          |irrespective of size or wealth
KarlosI   |  o encouraging development of the Amiga in core, common areas
KarlosI   |  o promoting the Amiga in all areas across the globe
«OP»      |TB gives channel operator status to KarlosI
TB        |Kar: Take over
KarlosI   |The ICOA is a democratic organization, thus we have an election 
          |of the steering committee in progress
KarlosI   |TB: k
KarlosI   |Of which I am one of the nominees for the Open and Individual 
          |seat!!
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KarlosI   |And finally the icoa seeks to be an organization for all 
          |developers!
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lostman   |j
onebit    |yada-yada
lostman   |pjs:  hey whats up?
KarlosI   |I wil now open up for questions or concerns:
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sadams    |Do you feel that too much responsibility sits on your shoulders 
          |as the ICOA?
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          |server).
pjs       |lostman: hey there  - can you loan tekmage a few bucks for me 
          |(I'll send you a check) for him to buy me a pre-reg Miami Deluxe? 
          | :-)
KarlosI   |Sadam the steering committte will work as a team and share the 
          |responsibbilities, therefore responsibilities will be delegated. 
          |And as the the first steering committie will be awar being the 
          |first will be the most difficult!!
KarlosI   |next
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«Topic»   |KarlosI sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <-- Schedule of Q & A with Karlos 
          |on the ICOA!
sadams    |Did Fleecy Moss attend this show?
Tigerwizz |Is the AmigaNG still supposed to be on schedule for release by 
          |the end of 99?
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«Nick»    |lostman is now known as BlackFire.
KarlosI   |sadams: As I understand it, yes!
BlackFire |AmigaNG is still on schedule at this time, even the Nov 98 
          |announcement is still on for the "Bridge" system.
sadams    |:)
BlackFire |I did not see Fleecy here at all.
KarlosI   |Tiger: AI has not releeased very much info on their plans much of 
          |you already know. But AI did say that everything is proceeding as 
          |scheduled
KarlosI   |BF: Blackfire as someone told me, I understood he was there!
MiMe      |BlackFire: but no news about the processor? or any other? 8-(( 
          |these "30day wait" is very long... actually >2 month now.
BlackFire |The explaination was that even though negotiations are ongoing 
          |Allen Havemose is still able to get other sections of the OS 
          |working, even now they are doing just that.
KarlosI   |Thanks Black!
sadams    |How are your communications with Jeff Schindler and Amiga Inc., 
          |or Gateway for that matter?
KarlosI   |your? you mean the ICOA?
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sadams    |yes
BlackFire |They gave new specs for the Processor, I do not know them off the 
          |top of my head, but they will be posted on the AI web site, 
          |possibly under password, to get it, fill out a developer form, 
          |even if you are not a developer.
sadams    |thanx!
sadams    |Do you think they plan to scrub the PPC Developers?
BlackFire |The specs were very big, we did some quick figures and full 
          |screen HDTV animation with individual pixel rendering will be 
          |EASILY possible.
KarlosI   |I am a member of the ICOA running as a candidate for the open and 
          |individiual seat. The ICOA being the current transistional 
          |committee of Alain Penders (Finale Development)
KarlosI   |Andy Finkel (Pios and others)
KarlosI   |Dean Brown (DKB)
KarlosI   |Fleecy Moss (IBMe)
KarlosI   |Jesse McClusky (ACI)
KarlosI   |Are working closely with Amiga Incorporated to facilate the 
          |ICOA's developement as well with the current developer memmbers!
Tigerwizz |Karlos: Who will have the opportunity to vote for you?
BlackFire |Bill Mcgwen (sp?) said "I don't know"  that has not been worked 
          |out, and is still very much open.
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          |something completely different...).
BlackFire |The PPC situation and bringing the bridge system to PPC, that 
          |is...
pekr      |I am on general ICOA ML, which seems to be damn quiet last month 
          |or so, so one question: what is real ICOA role when everything 
          |seems to be decided without any discussion, simply by AInc. 
          |itself, just behind the scenes
KarlosI   |Tiger: And perosn who is currently on the the voting list, which 
          |can be found at http://www.amiganet.org/icoa/members.html
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Tigerwizz |Karlos: How do you become a member?
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laire     |ello theshade
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KarlosI   |pekr: Registered members of the iCOA are communication very much 
          |in the mailing list run by Mitchman. If you heck out the working 
          |groups you'll see there are 5 working groups in progreess
sadams    |Karlos: Will OS5 pohave a port to PPC from P5?
TheShade  |hey laire!
BlackFire |There was little mention of ICOA by Bill during his speech, other 
          |thanking them for all their efforts.  No one asked him about the 
          |ICOA's future role with AI, so my suggestion is to fire off an 
          |email to him and ask.  He will answer!
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KarlosI   |Hold the questions until I catch up ;)
Locutus   |is the webcam officially dead?
sadams    |Karlos: interpet my bad spelling, please thx!
KarlosI   |A note: All ICOA members are able to vote!
BlackFire |I don't know, it is still sitting here, but none of the scripts 
          |are running.
sadams    |ok
KarlosI   |Tiger: Goto http://wwwamiganet.org/icoa/resgiter.html and there 
          |is a registration database available there!
BlackFire |The camera seems to be turned off, upon further inspection.
Llama     |sadams Thats extremely unlikely, the architetural difference 
          |between the Mitchie chip and a normal risc chip is just to great.
sadams    |onebit: maybe some Monitering is in order??
BlackFire |Bill Borsari (sp?) has taken (nick) sasc to the airport.
pekr      |So will ICOA take any role in future OS direction decisions? e.g. 
          |how (and if) to implement VM, MP, etc.?
KarlosI   |sadams: AFAIK there are no plans to port OSv5 to PPC by P5. ANd I 
          |wouldn't put much hope in it either. COnsidering the OSv3.5 
          |project which fell dead in the water this weekend!!
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KarlosI   |Loc: I do not know
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Llama     |sadams You have to remember the course that has been chosen is a 
          |quantum leap beyond all curretn paradigms...
BlackFire |pekr:   that was not discussed, ask Bill Mc. in email
pjs       |Bye All
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sadams    |Karlos: Please,... Confirm!
KarlosI   |pekr: AI has agreed to consider all papers submitted by the 
          |working groups of the ICOA!
Wedgie    |Karlos: Any OS plans for PPC at all ???
pekr      |KarlosI: thanks
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laire     |karlosI: you obviously don`t know what is discussed or not 
          |discussed
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KarlosI   |BF: I was told by Fleecy that AI would consider standards 
          |submitted by the icoa?
KarlosI   |Wedgie: No, and I don't believe there will be!!
sadams    |Llama: I know, but P5's PPC solution would be the "backwards 
          |compatibility" link between OS3.1 and OS5
BlackFire |KarlosI:   I personally did not hear any discussion about the 
          |ICOA in relation to AI and their mutual relationship.
pekr      |llama: how do you know, there is difference of MMC and classic 
          |chips, when you don't know, what the MMC stands for? :-)
Tigerwizz |Karlos: Do you have to pay to become a member of the ICOA?
KarlosI   |BF: Oh your talking at the Amiwest show!
BlackFire |KarlosI:   Yes
KarlosI   |Tiger: Yes, the fees are as low as $25 however payment is not to 
          |be reuqested until a payment system is in place!
BlackFire |Everyone is packing the stuff up at this time.
sadams    |pekr: I don't even know if a MMC Chip even EXISTS!
BlackFire |Still a LOT of last minute purchases being made !
KarlosI   |BF: Well this didn't come from the show!
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sadams    |pekr: The PPC is here NOW!
Llama     |sadams maybe, but that doenslt change the physics involed, the 
          |Mitchie is nothing like a PPC chip porting would not work out to 
          |well, you'de have to rewrite major portions from scratch to 
          |support a cpu which is far inferior to the one they have chossen 
          |.... whats the point, backards compatibility can more approriately
          |be supplied via emulation
Riley     |MMC=Mystery Monster Chip
BlackFire |sadams:   quote:  "The silicon is not even dry yet."  Bill Mc.
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KarlosI   |laire: I'm going by what I have been told thus far!
spock1    |KarlosI: I'm wondering about the dev tools, documentation for the 
          |AmigaNG. Will they be as good as those on other platforms? As you 
          |may know Dev stuff for current Amigas is scarce in some ways. 
          |Especially for the current OS.
Locutus   |MMC = magical mystery chip
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KarlosI   |spock1: That's yet to be seen, but I would certainly hope so!!
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BlackFire |Bill Mc. said for everyone to send him email if they hear any 
          |kind of rumor for clarification before spreading it around.  He 
          |will answer.
sadams    |Locutus: Yeah, right..."Roll UP!"
KarlosI   |Spcok1: And the ICOA will work to provide the Amiga Community 
          |with a vast resource on this
laire     |maybe you should go by things you *know* instead of by things 
          |you`ve heard...by that standard everybody here can say what you 
          |say
KarlosI   |laire: I consider what fleecy tells me in e-mail fact!
sadams    |laire: I BOUGHT THE PPC CHIP!!!
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Llama     |sadams If you have PPC now, your best option is probably UAE 
          |until you too can make that quantum leap with AmigaNG
KarlosI   |Fleecy Moss works for AI!
Locutus   |bye
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KarlosI   |Any more questions ppl?
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sadams    |all those ^%$@&#$% mags PREACHED that PPC was the "Next 
          |Generation"
BlackFire |FYI:  The next version of STRICQ should have pop-up windows.  I 
          |cracked that barrier!
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KarlosI   |BF: Good to hear!! ;)
Wedgie    |karlos: any news on possible conversions ?? realaudio etc and 
          |such netty things
Riley     |blackfire: where can i get str-icq?
Llama     |sadams things chang quick in the computer business, it;s not the 
          |fastest thing on the block anymore, these MMc chips are a quantum 
          |leap over them now ;)
sadams    |I'm sure H&P as well as P5 have EGGGS all over thier faces!
DFDuck    |BlackFire: Nice prog. I'm enjoying it Thank you ¦)  (the keyboard 
          |shorcuts don't work if the Incoming Messages window is the active 
          |one)
BlackFire |sadams:   And Bill Mc.  appologized many times for the lack of 
          |info on AmigaNG and promises that that won't be the case from now 
          |on.  "I Promise!"  So send him email if you feel left out.
Llama     |sadams that means AmigaNG will be born with the fast available 
          |technology, no more playing catchup to everyone else
BlackFire |Riley, I will put up a web page before next weekend.
pekr      |llama: why are you so sure? Wait for G4 AltiVEc which is due to 
          |be out 1Q99(?)
BlackFire |Or I should say by next weekend.
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Riley     |blackfire: ok
sadams    |Eggs that Carl S. DIDN'T have for Breakfast yesterday! :)
BlackFire |DFDuck, if you use R-Amiga, they always work!
KarlosI   |Wedgie: If I elected I will bring this to the attention of the 
          |steering committeee to see about bringing satndards such as 
          |RealAudio to the Amiga!
DFDuck    |BlackFire: Ahah.. was using left by habit.
spock1    |KarlosI: What standards have been worked out so far if any at 
          |this stage? GA
DFDuck    |no wait.. right. Ya.. I use the right, by habit. (I'm getting 
          |dyslexic in my old age)
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KarlosI   |spock1: None, there are 5 working groups in progresss working on 
          |setting standards!
sadams    |i envision obstacles flying about the AmiWEST98 Hall!
Llama     |pekr Ya, G4 will start to catch up, but it isnlt as flexible or 
          |as cost effective, so AmigaNG willstill have the edge out of the 
          |gate ;)
KarlosI   |Remember the ICOA is still in it's infancy, and will become what 
          |defvfelopers wish it to be!!
BlackFire |spock1:  as far as other standards, ie real audio, Bill Mc. said 
          |many companies are being talked with even now to bring them to 
          |Amiga.
sadams    |Chairs, Tables, Rotten Fruit...
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pekr      |llame: I hope you are right, but when you don't even know, what 
          |the MMC is, how can you know? ;-)
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sadams    |A1200s, A4000s, Miami 3.0
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DFDuck    |BlackFire: I see now if I press right-amiga and the number key 
          |"twice" the associated window opens.
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Wedgie    |any more new on NETSCAPE for miggy after what Petro said a few 
          |months ago ?
«Nick»    |HammerD is now known as Blondie.
Blondie   |hi !
«Topic»   |KarlosI sets topic to http://www.amiga.org/webcam <-- Webcam ; 
          |http://www.amiga.org/usergroups <----- Schedule
KarlosI   |I assmume amiwest is over now!! ;)
pekr      |wedgie: petro :-))
Llama     |pekr I know what an mMc is, in fact it;s not a knew concelt at 
          |all, IBM used the same paradigm in the 360 almost 20 years aog
BlackFire |I did not hear the word Netscape mentioned in any capacity here.
Wal       |hi all
DFDuck    |BlackFire: I'll save my thoughts and join your ML and post them 
          |there.
Blondie   |black: any news from the show ?
Wal       |anyone could tell me what happen to amywset? :)
BlackFire |Blondie:  ask
Llama     |pekr but they go a lot faster now for a lot less money ;)
Blondie   |black: I'm asking you :)
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Wedgie    |i wonder how opera is coming along on the miggy, and where is Net 
          |Cruiser ??
pekr      |llama: so you know, what the MMC is? Are you under NDA? :-)
sadams    |Hey AMIGANS, Want CHEAP SoftWare? Mail To M-Enterprises - P.O.Box 
          |584 Benson AZ. For a FREE CATALOG LOADED WITH AMIGA SOFTWARE!
Llama     |Finale Web Cruiser was cancelled, Opera port began last week....
sadams    |Tell Em AMIWEST(* SENT YOU!!
BlackFire |ask a specific question.  Nothing MAJOR was announced, 
          |negotiations are onging.  more specific specs for the MMC were 
          |announced.  Incredible.  what else would you like to know.
Lambertus |what specs
Blondie   |black: OS kernel announced?
sadams    |ZIP CODE 85602
pekr      |what are that more specific specs?
BlackFire |llama, Finale Web cruiser was NOT canceled.  they are looking for 
          |new developer.  currently it is ON HOLD>
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Llama     |pekr MMC is a design currently being persued by at least 6 
          |companies, there is no secret as to what it is, only which one 
          |Amiga inc has chosen
Blondie   |Is Joe Torre here?
BlackFire |No OS kernal announced, they are in negotiations with at least 
          |three companies at this time.
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Blondie   |Black: any decision on OS 3.5 ?
Blondie   |ie. to give it to 3rd parties to produce?
BlackFire |I haven't heard anything about OS 3.5
Llama     |BlackFire Finale Web Cruiser was cancelleed and JKay announced 
          |that publicly, it;s DEAD
BlackFire |Olaf Barthel announced the Amiga Developers CD v2.1 with full 
          |RKMs for 3.1 in, at least, HTML format.
pekr      |llama: 6 companies working on similiar chips covering similiar 
          |performance, or just cooperating or what?
DFDuck    |Hmm. I'd have to scroll back but I'm sure someone said 3.5 is 
          |officialy dead.
Blondie   |Black: is Carl Sassenrath working for Amiga Inc. on contract?
Llama     |pekr They are all very similar
BlackFire |Llama, thats not what Chris Aldi said.  Guess they need to work 
          |out which is right.
BlackFire |Blondie, Carl S. is working on REBOL full time.  AI is, 
          |obviously, aware of his work and at some time in the future they 
          |may discuss something.
Blondie   |DFDuck: as far as amiga inc. development, yes, but 3rd parties 
          |were interested
spock1    |BlackFire: I thought I heard that realaudio, shockwave were not 
          |going to be ported to the Amiga because the Authors refused to 
          |port it or let anyone else do so. GA
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Blondie   |re atmosh
laire     |llama: and why is VMX/Altivec not good enough ?
aTmosh    |hi Blondie
aTmosh    |heh, autoKarlos :)
NANh      |They do not want to release their proprietary information.
DFDuck    |Blondie: Well that at least sounds encouraging.
BlackFire |spock1, no specifics were mentioned I use RA as an example.
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aTmosh    |BTW, Amiga RC5 Team passed Win32 team today, but I guess you 
          |already knew that :)
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Llama     |BlackFire Well, JKay says it is, and he's the spokesmodel ;) 
          |Unless htey;ve changed their mind in the last 2 days, all 
          |programmers were taken off finale and  put on VooDoo2 and the 
          |other apps and FWC caldi told me personally was un salvageable 
          |just last week
BlackFire |Llama, Ok.
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BlackFire |The displays are coming down and most tables are clear now.
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YM0US     |Does AI have a date for annoucements???
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DFDuck    |What time are they kicking you guys out of the meeting hall?
Wedgie    |well gotta run, work in 7 hours :(   bye all
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          |flows, The Wise man knows I follow you....).
BlackFire |no idea, I'm just sitting here taking a rest, Bill B. just 
          |returned from the airport.
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DFDuck    |YM0US: The announcment last night was that there might be an 
          |announcment in 30 days.
BlackFire |YM0US:   Bill Mc. said that as soon as contracts are signed, 
          |announcements would be made immediatly.
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YM0US     |Didn't they say that at WOA??
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Llama     |Blondie Carl;s pretty busy keeping his 8 sheep co-ordinated and 
          |there;s more sheep coming all the time, he has no time to spare
BlackFire |YM0US:   He also stated that they would not wait for another show 
          |to make any announcements.
aTmosh    |bbl
DFDuck    |Hmm.. do sheep and Amiga go together? I too have sheep.. and 
          |Amiga since '85.
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Lambertus |Not wait for a show... ah at least something
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BlackFire |KarlosI:   Which Bill?
YM0US     |whre will the weekends news be posted on the net??
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Tom--     |hi all
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Tom--     |is there any kind of news?
Tom--     |or nothing yet?
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BlackFire |YM0US, didn't say, I would presume on amiga.com
Llama     |well, itls over, quit gawking and move along ;) and donl;t forget 
          |anet #amiga is always here with lots to keep you occupied 
          |with.... bubye
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BlackFire |Tom--:   a few things, nothing big.
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Tom--     |is the show finished?
Lambertus |Tell us the few things!
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Riley     |tom: just finishing
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Tom--     |black: which are the few things?
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BlackFire |Tom--:   people are packing and boxes are going out the door now.
Echo_TA   |Hi Asha
BlackFire |Tom--:   New developer CD v2.1, and very firm specs for the new 
          |chip.
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Moloch    |Are these specs posted somewhere?
VideoTech |Blackfire: i have vacuumed irc logs to find thoose specs, where 
          |are they ?
Riley     |blackfire: where to get those specs? AInc? were they announced on 
          |irc?
Asha      |Hi Echo_TA! I just got home! :)
Tom--     |black: where are the specs?
Lambertus |Will they be announced soon?
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Asha      |What's with the cam?  Last pic up there was at 3:30 or so...is it 
          |down?
DFDuck    |Crashed a couple hours ago apparently.
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Wendell   |Hi Asha!
AAlley    |Asha: Tek told me it was my browser's fault.
Asha      |DFDuck: Shame! It was going pretty good last time I walked by it 
          |(I'm not in Sacremento anymore though)
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Asha      |Wendell: Hi sweetie!
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Riley     |hmm
VideoTech |humm blackfire run away :]
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fibbs     |anyone been here since 'Frank' the mailorder guy?
«Nick»    |fibbs is now known as fibbsy.
Wendell   |Asha: sweetie!?? me!?? blush
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Riley     |fibbs: oh yes
Asha      |Wendell: I'm feeling pretty giggly at the moment; driving in 100' 
          |heat will do that to ya'
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VideoTech |Riley: a easy way of geting away from troubblesome question ;)
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Riley     |videotech: an annoying way...;-)
VideoTech |heh
Wendell   |Asha: Just going to an Amiga show would probably do that to me.
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Asha      |Wendell: It was a really positive show; I came away more hopeful 
          |than ever!
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Lambertus |It was, Asha?
Wendell   |Asha: Glad to hear that! No major announcement though?
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Asha      |Lambertus: Yes, it was!
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Lambertus |Small, but upbeat?
DFDuck    |manatee ¦)
Asha      |Wendell: Well, it does seem as though the Amiga Kernal WILL be 
          |used for 5.0
pOMAc     |Manatee
Lambertus |Lots of news not related to the OS or AI?
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Wendell   |Asha: Well at least there was some news then
Asha      |Lambertus: The Ramada was a tiny place to start with, but it was 
          |VERY upbeat and everyone seemed to be doing well.  I ordered my 
          |Miami Deluxe directly from Holger there. ;)
Asha      |Wendell: There's other news re:Developers CD, RKMs as well
Echo_TA   |Wendell: Your BBS account has been updated
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Wendell   |Asha: Did you have a look at the new Photogenics?
Asha      |Wendell: Drool drool drool!! (giggle) I want it NOW!!!
Wendell   |Echo_TA: Thanks!
Lambertus |Asha: RKMs?  Electronic form?  On INet or just on dev-CD?
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Wendell   |Asha: I have been hearing some good things about it. Some some 
          |pictures on his web site too
Doug      |Hello all. Is the #amiwestta still active ?
Asha      |Lambertus: Not sure of the form yet.  There's also a bunch of 
          |stuff from Dave Haynie (and more to come) at www.thule.no/haynie

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          |12-07-1998
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manatee   |so !!! can anybody dcc me all what ive missed ?
DFDuck    |I can. Tomorrow.  Ready for about 700k of log files? ¦)
manatee   |DFDuck: great :)
DFDuck    |From this channel I got a 500k log from 14 hours of yesterday.
manatee   |DFDuck: thats ok
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DFDuck    |No.. that one came from #amiwestTA. This channel was only about 
          |275k. My mistake.
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manatee   |DFDuck: #amiwestTA.logs are just fine
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DFDuck    |manatee: Logging today for almost 8 hours.  "this" channel had 
          |the guest speaker Q&A sessions.
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Nutello   |hi there
DFDuck    |Howdy
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taza      |So Duck, you gonna stick those logs online ? ;)
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taza      |YOu should upload them to aminet.... ;)
DFDuck    |taza: ya. Don't know about aminet but I'll have them on 
          |http://wordbench.com/dfd/amiga.html  hopfully by tomorrow. 
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DFDuck    |Want to remove all my personal /msg stuffs. Then make available 
          |the whole raw logs and then make another trimmed version with 
          |just the Q&A sessions, filtering out all the 
          |/join/part/nick/voice etc noise.
DFDuck    |I managed to get about 3 megs of cam pics too.
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DFDuck    |I'm sure there will be logs sent to aminet. No sence in me 
          |duplicating it. Though I probably have the most complet log; 14 
          |hours yesterday and 8 hours today so far.
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DFDuck    |Looks like about time to quit logging though and start editing 
          |them.
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manatee   |DFDuck: yeah go for it m8
DFDuck    |manatee: As though I had nothing else I could be doing ¦)
manatee   |DFDuck: :)
DFDuck    |o/~ Time is on my hands o/~
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DFDuck    |The hard part will be going through 3 megs of cam pics and trying 
          |to put names with the faces...
manatee   |DFDuck: i know a lot of the faces
Rebbi     |DFD: When all is said and done, no real news out of AI? (I know, 
          |everybody's sick of the question...)  ;-)
DFDuck    |manatee: Then maybe I will incorperate your help if I get stuck. 
manatee   |DFDuck: :)
DFDuck    |Rebbi: From what I gathered.... AI officially dripped OS3.5 but a 
          |few 3rd parties are interested in developing it. The big 
          |announcement of last night was that there might be a big 
          |announcement in 30 days. And that the new chip name is 
          |"Multimedia RISC" but there is no specs because there is no such chip.
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Rebbi     |DFD: Yikes...  that's it?  Sounds like maybe they're having 
          |trouble signing contracts.
DFDuck    |Rebbi: No new hardware was shown. No new software to speak of, 
          |only newer versions of existing softwares. Lots of sales of 
          |t-shirts, buttons, caps, glasses, mugs, CD's.
DFDuck    |Rebbi: And they are planning an AmiWest99 again in Sacramento but 
          |at a different location.  (I asked the co-organizer).
Rebbi     |DFD: But I wonder how attandance was?  And how close PNolan is to 
          |finishing Photogenics NG -- it looked fab at St. Louis.
DFDuck    |Rebbi: They only had 500 tickets printed and sold them fairly 
          |quick. So not bad for a 1st time show.
Rebbi     |DFD: Yes.
DFDuck    |Mostly just a big Amiga party as far as I can see. No real info 
          |or new goodies.
Rebbi     |DFD: Well, if it pumped some people up and sold some merchandise, 
          |I guess it served a good purpose.
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DFDuck    |Only thing I heard that was remotly interesting was that 3rd 
          |parties are interested in OS3.5.
DFDuck    |Well.. I shouldn't say that. There was lots of interesting chat 
          |going on...but
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Rebbi     |DFD: Yeah, but H&P and P5 said that they were interested in that 
          |months ago... after WOA.
onebit2   |Did I miss anything?
manatee   |time i left
manatee   |bye all
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Rebbi     |onebit2: We're all feeling starved for exciting news.  Care to 
          |supply any?  ;-))
onebit2   |Hey lookie here! Here is ALL the /msg's snapper is gonna post! 
          |Better start working on my resume!
DFDuck    |Rebbi:  ya.. and also said 30 days till announcment just 
          |like this time 
onebit2   |Here is snappers stuff LONG: /msg Snapper Just cause you've 
          |fooled Jeff, dosent mean you will fool me.
onebit2   |3: /msg snapper Woops! you posted that!
onebit2   |4: /msg snapper I guess if you cant keep them, then you cant have 
          |them, thats why you are feed chaf. I've decided I'm not gonna 
          |argue with you. There is no point. My dick is larger. A well 
          |known fact.
onebit2   |5: /msg snapper reminds me of the monty-python Argument skit: "I 
          |could be argueing in my spare time!"
onebit2   |6: /msg snapper "I'm sorry, Abuse and Insults department is down 
          |the hall to your left"
onebit2   |7: /msg snapper Too much multitasking for ya?
onebit2   |Thats all baby!
onebit2   |snapper: Now what?
onebit2   |You will have to manually interleave the above harassment withhis 
          |rants
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Rebbi     |onebit2: C'mon, give the little people typing away on their 
          |maxed-out 1200's a reason to be cheerful...
AAlley    |Rebbi! Hi. Where have you been hiding?
mafutha   |anyone can tell me what I'm lookin at with the webcam?
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DFDuck    |<- Peanut Whistle A2000 here
Rebbi     |AAlley: My goodness, CT lives!  How ya doing, big guy!  :-)
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AAlley    |Doing fine! Biz is good, and I have a big slug of a PC to play 
          |with.
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Rebbi     |AAlley: I've been working way too hard.  I thought you quit the 
          |Amiga looney bin altogether.  Nice to see you here.
AAlley    |I did not quit. I just stopped reporting the news.
LowLevel  |hello. please, can someone give me the log of Kruse q&a session? 
          |or tell me where I can find it on the web? thanks.
Rebbi     |AAlley: I miss Amiga Alley... I refuse to remove the URL from my 
          |hotlist in hopes of a resurrection....
Rebbi     |:-)
AAlley    |You are a card:)
Rebbi     |card=dork
Rebbi     |;-)
DFDuck    |LowLevel: I'll have full logs available on 
          |http://wordbench.com/dfd/amiga.html by tomorrow. I've got 14 
          |hours from yesterday and 8.5 hours so far from today.
AAlley    |Rebbi: Wanna see Amiga ALley? look here: 
          |www.lapcopaintball.com/uae
DFDuck    |LowLevel: Also will trim a copy down to just Q&A sessions. 
LowLevel  |DFDuck: great job!  I already have the q&a log, but i lost a 
          |single reply!  ;-(
DFDuck    |LowLevel: Doh.
AAlley    |Go for it Rebbi:)
petah     |LowLevel: Still think you can send me a copy please?
DFDuck    |I logged yesterday from 10:am till 12:pm. 
LowLevel  |petah: do you want the cleaned version or the original log files 
          |(they are more than one)?
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DFDuck    |Lowlevel: I also managed to stow about 3 megs of cam shots too ¦)
petah     |LowLevel: Edited, please.
AAlley    |Rebbi: Buy more BillGates Brand ram
DFDuck    |I've got about 700k of logs from two channels yesterday.
AAlley    |I bumped this PC up to 196MB yesterday.
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Rebbi     |AAlley: Oooo--ee, he's baaaack!  Luvley gfx, AA, as always.  Hats 
          |off to ya.  Yer bookmarked again!  :-)
AAlley    |Thanks Rebbi:) I have much better gfx software now.
Rebbi     |How'd you do the spinning AAlley gif... it's nice?
AAlley    |Rebbi: back up toi the root of that url and look at the catalog
AAlley    |That gif is done with Cool3D
Rebbi     |Later, time to spend some time with my wife.  Have a nice night.  
          |Good to talk to you again, AA.
DFDuck    |url?
AAlley    |Nightr Rebbi. See yas again!
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AAlley    |Duck: www.lapcopaintball.com
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DFDuck    |got it. thanks.
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AAlley    |The UAE stuff is in /uae
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DFDuck    |I have an amiga link page. I'll add that one ¦)
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